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February 14, 2008

Bush Toes the Line in the Sand Keeping America Safe

President George W. BushBush is telling those Hippies in Congress that he won’t take orders from the Hate and Ashbury Street rabble when it comes to keeping this country secure from Islamism:

US President George W. Bush plans to veto legislation passed by the Senate to bar the CIA from using harsh interrogation methods including waterboarding, a spokeswoman said Thursday.

“The president will veto that bill,” said White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.

“The United States needs the ability to interrogate effectively, within the law, captured Al-Qaeda terrorists.”

The Democratic-led Senate voted 51-45 on Wednesday in favor of a bill calling for the Central Intelligence Agency to adopt the US Army Field Manual, which forbids waterboarding and other types of coercive interrogation methods.

Acid BobIt’s heartening that America has 45 patriots in the Senate, including Senator Brownback. But the assembly is currently controlled by Harry Reid, who takes his marching orders from Nancy Pelosi, who takes hers from “Acid Bob,” some San Francisco lunatic who has way too much information about her personal proclivities. Acid Bob also has thousands of idiot Hippie friends, who are the kingmakers in the worthless state of California. A once-decent state was taken over by moonbat drug dealers, and suddenly idiots like Pelosi and Barbara Boxer got jobs. A cautionary tale for the rest of us.

However, the vote fell short of the two-thirds majority needed to overcome a presidential veto. The House of Representatives passed similar legislation in December.

Democratic New York Senator Charles Schumer said that if Bush “vetoes intelligence authorization, he will be voting in favor of waterboarding.”

Got Water?Good! God wants America to waterboard. It’s not torture; it doesn’t even drown these rats, much as they deserve it. It merely simulates drowning, much as Islam simulates religion. It is not torture; it’s a harmless prank, not unlike those encountered during fraternity hazings. Anyone who grew up with siblings has endured far worse pain and humiliation. Why, my brother Scott once told me I was the adopted offspring of an American sailor and a Cuban prostitute. The emotional pain he caused was far, far worse than the time he stuck a garden hose in my mouth and turned it on. I speak with substantial personal experience on these matters. Waterboarding is not torture, and the only people who’d say otherwise are worthless Hippie Kumbaya-singers and Islamists whose personal idea of a good time is sawing your head off just for setting foot in Arabia.

Asked by a reporter if Bush, who leaves office in 2009, would be labeled as the first US president who favored torture, Perino rejected the assertion and dismissed Schumer’s argument as “simplistic.”

“Across the board people will see, over time, that this was a president who put in place tools to protect the country against terrorists,” Perino said.

Amen, Dana. The first President who favored torture was Thomas Jefferson. His Democrat Party has tormented this country for the last 230 years.

President George W. BushAcross the waterboard, Americans will see their nation saved and valuable intelligence gleaned from worthless scum captives whose lives are worth less than a single pinky from one of their victims. The proof is in the pudding- not one single domestic terrorist incident since 2001. Bush has kept this country safe, but the lefties want to open up Guantanamo and let the terrorists have jobs in your town. They oppose putting water up someone’s nose, yet they favor letting terrorists infiltrate into American society. You can’t make these crazies up, folks.

“The president does not favor torture. The president favors making sure we do all these programs within the law,” she said, adding that “all the interrogations that have taken place in this country have been done in a legal way.”

Perino said the United States does not currently use waterboarding, a simulated drowning technique denounced by rights groups as torture, even though the CIA has admitted using the technique in the past.

She reiterated the administration’s assertion last week that it would not rule out the use of such techniques in the future.

“Currently under the law it is not (allowed),” she said. “As we said last week as well, we are not going to talk about what may or may not be lawful in the future.”

No ACLUHopefully, that will soon change. America needs waterboarding in domestic law enforcement. Too many crimes are effected under the cover of phantasmic “civil liberties” having no basis in rational Christian society. The Fifth Amendment has killed more innocent victims than any gun in the world. With waterboarding, the police could change all that. Non-coercive interrogation methods utilizing a substance already comprising 80% of your body structure would soon teach these criminals the meaning of justice. If you didn’t learn civic responsibility on your neighbor’s slip-and-slide as a juvenile, your local police department will teach it to you as an adult. Hopefully, President Brownback will make it so.

Perino said the intelligence community’s view is that the Army Field Manual sets an inappropriate standard for seasoned CIA interrogators who are working to extract information from sophisticated militant operatives.

“Today with this bill that they are sending to us they would basically repeal the terrorist interrogation program in favor of something that will definitely weaken our ability to protect the country,” Perino said.

“This Army Field Manual is something that is public for all to see, and we know that Al-Qaeda trains to resist interrogation techniques such as those.”

WaterboardingThat’s another good point. Al Qaeda is an organization of crazies who’d rather blow themselves to smithereens killing you than see you driving a car or buying groceries at the local supermarket. Are we really supposed to believe that loud music and uncomfortable seating arrangements are going to make these loonies crack? Get real. Even sticking water up their noses is barely enough to get a peep out of them; notice that not a one has told us where Bin Laden lives. Something harsher should be done, but nothing currently legal will suffice. Still, waterboarding has given us the intelligence we need to defend ourselves, even if we don’t gain the additional intelligence we need to pursue the enemy abroad. I’ll take defensive victories over shameful defeats any day. And so will the other 300 million Americans who want to live secure, happy, and free from terrorist incidents. Waterboarding is the wellspring of our nation’s security.

27 Comments »

  1. So true, so true.

    We need to go beyond these mild questioning methods and look to other inventions that have produced good results in the past.

    The rack is a longtime favorite. Chains from the ceiling are also good. A good whipping often gets good results. Bamboo needles under the fingernails. Oh I now, BURNING bamboo needles. also the glass tube in the thingy works quickly.

    also we should try waterboarding using bleach, or lye or maybe pepper spray liquid.

    You should have a contest and then send the best ideas to President Bush so he can instruct the CIA to use new “tools”

    Comment by Marty McPain — February 14, 2008 @ 1:14 pm | Reply

  2. I think anyone, and I mean anyone, being questioned does not deserve harsh treatment.

    In b4 /b/rother psycheout calls me a hippie.

    Comment by The Nobody — February 14, 2008 @ 1:47 pm | Reply

  3. It’s not torture; it doesn’t even drown these rats, much as they deserve it.

    Umm, I think anyone who feels they’re about to drown would call it torturous. Care to try it yourself?

    […]Nancy Pelosi, who takes hers from “Acid Bob,”[…]

    Who the f*ck is “Acid Bob”?

    It merely simulates drowning, much as Islam simulates religion.

    Care to restate that with evidence and a full definition of “religion”?

    I’ve one:

    Dictionary:
    religion
    (rĭ-lĭj’ən) pronunciation

    n.

    1.
    1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
    2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
    2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
    3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
    4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

    …looks like it fits the criteria. Got any more bigoted speech? Any more of that chatter that sounds exactly like what the terrorists say? Only difference is that “Islam” and “Christianity” switch places. They want all non-muslims dead, you want all non-christians dead… You’re different, how?

    the lefties want to open up Guantanamo and let the terrorists have jobs in your town.

    Actually, the argument is that under American law, you cannot be held in prison without any sort of charges filed. Gitmo is exactly that– potential terrorists(remember, no evidence and no charges!) held without any sort of legal representation, or any sort of filed charges. It’s not a battlefield, so they aren’t POWs, either.

    “civil liberties” having no basis in rational Christian society.

    Glad to see you think you should not have any rights. So if we abolish Civil Liberties, should we return to slavery? How about if there were any laws passed that prohibited anything you enjoy?

    Correct me if I’m wrong, was there something in the Bible about working on the Sabbath, and being put to death if you did so?

    Comment by Dio Brando — February 14, 2008 @ 2:15 pm | Reply

  4. “Good! God wants America to waterboard. It’s not torture; it doesn’t even drown these rats, much as they deserve it.”

    Why can’t we install actual torture chambers for the Muslims in Vermont (away from the Cuban revolutionaries)? Muslims MUST be tortured in order to protect America. In addition, eco-terrorists and vegans must be tortured along side Muslims so that we can continue the Christian activities of deforestation and steak-eating.

    The Constitution is a fraud. We must publicly burn it and install a monarchy, so as to preserve Brownback’s glory for as long as possible. The monarchs were farther away from the enrages in the French Revolution than the Constitutionalists (or even the Constitutional Monarchists) were. Democrats/Cordelliers were very close to the enrages, followed by the Republicans/Jacobins (thanks to the large amount of RINOS). A monarchy is the best solution to preserve Christianity for all time. However, if 55% of the Conservative Christian churches frown upon the monarch (other than Brownback), the monarch will be removed and placed with a new one. Church leaders should be democratically elected (they shall make up the legislature), but must be able to pass a test on the Bible and Conservatism as well as sign a contract that warrants their execution should they betray Conservative Christianity. However, the legislature shall have NO say on foreign policy whatsoever; they will be the primary writer of domestic laws, however.

    With this monarchy, Muslims will flee. We can attack Islam without restraint by unnecessary baggage such as the ‘judicial’ and ‘legislature’ branches. Our corporations, unrestrained by regulations, shall undoubtedly mass produce weapons to kill Muslims. Our military, guided by angels (headed by Gabriel), shall rampage over the Middle East and take back the oil that is rightfully ours (which Satan stole and hid underneath the towelheads).

    Comment by bobcorker — February 14, 2008 @ 3:35 pm | Reply

  5. “Amen, Dana. The first President who favored torture was Thomas Jefferson. His Democrat Party has tormented this country for the last 230 years.”

    Of patriots. All sensible people torture anyone that opposes America. Jefferson just wanted to torture patriots instead of Muslims, and therefore must be labeled as scum.

    Comment by bobcorker — February 14, 2008 @ 3:37 pm | Reply

  6. Okay, b4b. I am going to be completely honest with you guys.

    I must say that you do an excellent job doing what you do. You guys pretend to be overzealous christians in order to stereotype the common christfag that society knows of. You even succeeded in trolling other people, such as people who like video games, people that don’t think we should be at war, and even people that don’t like Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee. Of course, the truth is that you are not really serious about all of this. The only thing you guys set out to do is piss people off, and in this process, you became mildly popular. In this popularity, you also showed us how real shallow-minded religious-types would think and act these day. For that, I am proud of you guys. Whether you decided to come out and admit you are all just fellow 4channers or not, I would still be proud to call you a fellow /b/rother, Psycheout. Same goes for Sisyphus, BJ, and even Bobby Corker. And let’s not forget newcomer Jeremiah.

    Maybe someday, when someone calls for /b/lackup at the pool or for /b/ackup on March 15th, you guys will be there to help other fellow Anonymous. You guys are the most professional trolls I have ever seen. It brings a tear of joy to my eye to see that you guys are the most successful of trolls. And I know that my comment is going to be looked at funny, but when you think about it, the site really is a hoax, and hopefully you can understand where I am coming from.

    Long live 4chan.
    Long live Anonymous.
    Long live /b/.

    Comment by The Nobody — February 14, 2008 @ 3:39 pm | Reply

  7. “We must publicly burn it and install a monarchy”
    Why do you hate America?

    Comment by Elephant Bones — February 14, 2008 @ 4:14 pm | Reply

  8. It’s official: Bob Corker wants to destroy America.

    Comment by Dio Brando — February 14, 2008 @ 5:05 pm | Reply

  9. “The rack is a longtime favorite. Chains from the ceiling are also good. A good whipping often gets good results. Bamboo needles under the fingernails. Oh I now, BURNING bamboo needles. also the glass tube in the thingy works quickly.”

    There’s no way people will let us get that far yet. We have to build to that. Make waterboarding legal and commonplace, then we can move on to more extreme methods of freedom protection.

    “…looks like it fits the criteria. Got any more bigoted speech? Any more of that chatter that sounds exactly like what the terrorists say? Only difference is that “Islam” and “Christianity” switch places. They want all non-muslims dead, you want all non-christians dead… You’re different, how?”

    Because my religion is based on Truth, and theirs is based on Lies.

    “Glad to see you think you should not have any rights. So if we abolish Civil Liberties, should we return to slavery? How about if there were any laws passed that prohibited anything you enjoy?”

    That would never happen, so long as Americans continue to elect decent Christian Presidents like George Bush and Sam Brownback.

    “Correct me if I’m wrong, was there something in the Bible about working on the Sabbath, and being put to death if you did so?”

    Yes, there is. I, too, am not without sin. However, that sin is foisted upon me by necessity. Change the laws to match the Bible. I’ll happily retire from my jobs long enough to watch my atheist bosses die for their beliefs, then return to working a pleasant 6-day week.

    “Why can’t we install actual torture chambers for the Muslims in Vermont (away from the Cuban revolutionaries)?”

    I wouldn’t trust the Vermont people around terrorists. They’d probably free them and try to hug them or something, or help them escape to Canada. If anything, we should be incarcerating Vermont residents right alongside these scumbags.

    Comment by Sisyphus — February 14, 2008 @ 9:36 pm | Reply

  10. “I must say that you do an excellent job doing what you do. You guys pretend to be overzealous christians in order to stereotype the common christfag that society knows of. You even succeeded in trolling other people, such as people who like video games, people that don’t think we should be at war, and even people that don’t like Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee. Of course, the truth is that you are not really serious about all of this. The only thing you guys set out to do is piss people off, and in this process, you became mildly popular. In this popularity, you also showed us how real shallow-minded religious-types would think and act these day. For that, I am proud of you guys. Whether you decided to come out and admit you are all just fellow 4channers or not, I would still be proud to call you a fellow /b/rother, Psycheout. Same goes for Sisyphus, BJ, and even Bobby Corker. And let’s not forget newcomer Jeremiah.

    “Maybe someday, when someone calls for /b/lackup at the pool or for /b/ackup on March 15th, you guys will be there to help other fellow Anonymous. You guys are the most professional trolls I have ever seen. It brings a tear of joy to my eye to see that you guys are the most successful of trolls. And I know that my comment is going to be looked at funny, but when you think about it, the site really is a hoax, and hopefully you can understand where I am coming from.”

    Sorry. This site’s not a spoof. We’re quite serious.

    Comment by Sisyphus — February 14, 2008 @ 9:37 pm | Reply

  11. “Good! God wants America to waterboard.”

    So if a majority vote constitutes God’s will, than it must’ve been His will that the Nazis took control of the Reichstag and systematically murdered everybody of religious conviction that he could get his hands on.

    Comment by messageonthepavement — February 14, 2008 @ 9:43 pm | Reply

  12. Because my religion is based on Truth, and theirs is based on Lies.

    Uh huh. And your proof is, where again? In a book? Well HOLY COINCIDENCES, BATMAN, SO IS THEIRS!

    Change the laws to match the Bible. I’ll happily retire from my jobs long enough to watch my atheist bosses die for their beliefs, then return to working a pleasant 6-day week

    If they’re atheists, then quit. You serve only the Lord. Seems like you don’t mouth off to them. You’re fine doing it here, but don’t have the balls to do it in person? Why not go and set fire to a synagogue, or a masjid? Be a man, go out and punch someone not of your faith in the face. And if the court comes for you, let them know that you are exercising your rights– and also, doing what you know needs to be done as a true Christian.

    Why are you so content to sit here and whine and moan, when you could go out and shoot a heathen or two? What, you’re going to say that it would not be a good thing to do? This site has already called for nuclear war and genocide. Instead of merely hoping that everyone will suddenly turn into a conservative christian, go and beat a nonbeliever or two until they submit through their broken and missing teeth!

    Comment by Dio Brando — February 14, 2008 @ 9:51 pm | Reply

  13. “If they’re atheists, then quit. You serve only the Lord. Seems like you don’t mouth off to them. You’re fine doing it here, but don’t have the balls to do it in person? Why not go and set fire to a synagogue, or a masjid? Be a man, go out and punch someone not of your faith in the face. And if the court comes for you, let them know that you are exercising your rights– and also, doing what you know needs to be done as a true Christian.”

    No thanks. I don’t particularly fancy the idea of some leftard judge sending me to jail just for defending America. Jails are where the evildoers and their Hippie defenders will be, once Brownback takes the helm and continues the good works of President Bush.

    “Why are you so content to sit here and whine and moan, when you could go out and shoot a heathen or two? What, you’re going to say that it would not be a good thing to do? This site has already called for nuclear war and genocide. Instead of merely hoping that everyone will suddenly turn into a conservative christian, go and beat a nonbeliever or two until they submit through their broken and missing teeth!”

    We fight the good fight online, winning converts to the Truth. It’s what God has called for me to do. If others take other paths, this one is mine.

    While we’re on the subject, shouldn’t you moonbats be throwing yourselves in front of Army trucks? If you hate the war so much and all, why not conflagrate yourselves in protest?

    Comment by Sisyphus — February 15, 2008 @ 10:16 am | Reply

  14. “Judge not, lest ye be judged.”

    Why is that so hard to follow?

    Comment by TrogdortheEnlightened — February 15, 2008 @ 11:12 am | Reply

  15. “You want to be able to use emergency tech to try to get the information out of that person,” Lieberman said. […]

    “It is not like putting burning coals on people’s bodies. The person is in no real danger. The impact is psychological,” Lieberman said.

    Sounds like Joe has some good ideas.

    Comment by Marty McPain — February 15, 2008 @ 11:53 am | Reply

  16. “The United States needs the ability to interrogate effectively, within the law, captured Al-Qaeda terrorists.”

    Waterbording is torture. And hence illegal anyway.

    Good! God wants America to waterboard.

    Give me the exact citation of this statement of god. Now.

    It’s not torture; it doesn’t even drown these rats, much as they deserve it

    If they´d be drowned, it´d be murder.

    It merely simulates drowning, much as Islam simulates religion.

    As much as christianity simulates morality…

    It is not torture; it’s a harmless prank, not unlike those encountered during fraternity hazings.

    Well, I´d guess you wouldn´t take it for a prank if someone did it to you.

    The proof is in the pudding- not one single domestic terrorist incident since 2001.

    It´s not like they seriously tried. Bombing americans at your homedoor saves you the journey after all.

    the lefties want to open up Guantanamo and let the terrorists have jobs in your town.

    Last time I checke, Fort Leavenworth wasn´t a town…

    The Fifth Amendment has killed more innocent victims than any gun in the world.

    Yet it bleaks in comparison with THE killer: Religion. More people have been killed in the name of god or with the killer believing to have gods favour than by anything else.

    Because my religion is based on Truth, and theirs is based on Lies.

    Your book is written by a handful of people that died before your continent was discovered and that you never knew. The only “proof” for it´s truth is itself stating itself to be true. And that´s like me saying that all christians are really just muslims in disguise. It´s true because I say so!

    Comment by PG — February 15, 2008 @ 5:11 pm | Reply

  17. No thanks. I don’t particularly fancy the idea of some leftard judge sending me to jail just for defending America. Jails are where the evildoers and their Hippie defenders will be, once Brownback takes the helm and continues the good works of President Bush.

    What, you too st-st-stupid to learn how to fight the courts? Why not shoot the judge, too? And the prosecutor? Raise a militia, since that’s what you want. I know Corksucker has a munitions cache. All good Christians will come flocking to protect you, right?

    And the job, why don’t you at least quit that? Don’t work for anyone that isn’t as religious and conservative as you. Otherwise, you’re just giving “liberals” more money.

    We fight the good fight online, winning converts to the Truth. It’s what God has called for me to do. If others take other paths, this one is mine.

    While we’re on the subject, shouldn’t you moonbats be throwing yourselves in front of Army trucks? If you hate the war so much and all, why not conflagrate yourselves in protest?

    You fight a fruitless battle, then. The internet is not the streets. Of those you hate and want murdered before your eyes, we pose the most danger to you. We are everywhere. We are your bosses, your deliverymen, your IT, your programmers, and your server maintainers. You cannot win against us, because you cannot search and destroy the entire planet. Try it from space? Not only would you see the SPHERE of Earth, but we control your flight path from the beginning.

    You don’t need to be liberal to be smart(trust me, I’ve met plenty of idiotic liberals before), but you DO need to be liberal(open) to take in higher knowledge. You need to be willing to accept and test new ideas.

    You are still here because we allow you to exist within the internet.

    Comment by Dio Brando — February 16, 2008 @ 6:41 pm | Reply

  18. Good! God wants America to waterboard. It’s not torture; it doesn’t even drown these rats, much as they deserve it. It merely simulates drowning, much as Islam simulates religion. It is not torture; it’s a harmless prank, not unlike those encountered during fraternity hazings. Anyone who grew up with siblings has endured far worse pain and humiliation.

    So, my friend and I are debating whether this is an actual Republican blog or a brilliant, over-the-top parody of a Republican blog. It’s really a toss-up.

    Comment by Phil — February 16, 2008 @ 7:39 pm | Reply

  19. Parody. Though some of the regulars are serious(Corksmoker, possibly Marty McTard).

    Comment by Dio Brando — February 16, 2008 @ 9:29 pm | Reply

  20. “Parody. Though some of the regulars are serious(Corksmoker, possibly Marty McTard).”

    I’ll answer for Sisyphus: If this were a pardoy website, then you’d see it spamming all over the political Internet. But it doesn’t.

    Thank you for at least not labeling me a parody. I’ve only met 2 morons that did so (Arn and the Nobody), and both are about the most degenerate people you’ll ever meet.

    Comment by bobcorker — February 18, 2008 @ 7:55 pm | Reply

  21. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that I labeled you a parody, Corker, I remember because your ridiculous story included a reference to the corks that supposedly give you your surname. Something about a Goldbergian device involving hemis and a long haired man.

    Comment by Armand Jean du Plessis de Richelieu — March 6, 2008 @ 5:14 pm | Reply

  22. “Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that I labeled you a parody, Corker, I remember because your ridiculous story included a reference to the corks that supposedly give you your surname. Something about a Goldbergian device involving hemis and a long haired man.”

    Sorry I forgot about you, but you haven’t posted in a while. And anyways, you’re wrong. The parodists that come to this site usually get bored after 3 days or so. I’ve been here for about 7 months.

    Comment by bobcorker — March 6, 2008 @ 5:29 pm | Reply

  23. *sigh* Torture doesn’t always work. In fact, given the fanaticism that so many hard-core terrorists tend to have, I’d be surprised if they weren’t willing to die before giving up their secrets. The ones we’ve gotten info out of were the initiates who hadn’t been fully brainwashed yet.

    Also, what if we unknowingly capture and torture an innocent person? Look at all the people who refused to confess heresy during the Inquisition. I strongly doubt that ALL of those people were heretics. More likely, a good number of them were falsely accused by jealous neighbors, and rather than lie about their faithfulness to God, they suffered in silence, and many even died for refusing to lie.

    Comment by L — March 7, 2008 @ 10:44 am | Reply

  24. “Also, what if we unknowingly capture and torture an innocent person?”
    What makes you think they’d care?

    Comment by Elephant Bones — March 7, 2008 @ 12:11 pm | Reply

  25. If this were a pardoy website, then you’d see it spamming all over the political Internet.

    You don’t need to do that to be a parody site. I certainly don’t see The Onion popping up everywhere.

    Comment by Dio Brando — March 7, 2008 @ 2:03 pm | Reply

  26. Also, what if we unknowingly capture and torture an innocent person?

    To the B4B staff, they are the only innocents. Everyone else is…THE DEMONS.

    (and then Brownback was a zombie)

    Comment by Dio Brando — March 7, 2008 @ 2:05 pm | Reply

  27. “I certainly don’t see The Onion popping up everywhere.”
    And that’s a damn shame, they’re pretty funny.

    Comment by Elephant Bones — March 7, 2008 @ 4:27 pm | Reply


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