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February 4, 2008

B4B Ahead of the Curve Again: The FBI Agrees with Us

Filed under: Defending America,Justice/Law — Psycheout @ 10:03 pm
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Biometrics for FreedomMany months ago I wrote about the brave new world offered to us freedom loving Americans that RFID promised. The FBI has gone beyond that and will take us forward into a braver new 21st Century. The rule of law and law enforcement has never had such a bright future. America should be proud, enthusiastic and more than ready to move into the new century, safe and free. Remember 9/11?

The FBI is gearing up to create a massive computer database of people’s physical characteristics, all part of an effort the bureau says to better identify criminals and terrorists.

Awesome. Let’s bring the libtards along, kicking and screaming, into a new improved beacon of freedom and security.

But it’s an issue that raises major privacy concerns — what one civil liberties expert says should concern all Americans.

Stop the ACLUBoo hoo hoo. If you’ve got something to hide. Like criminal activity. Why do so called “civil liberties” activists like the anti-American ACLU always seek to protect terrorists, drug dealers and other lawbreakers?

The bureau is expected to announce in coming days the awarding of a $1 billion, 10-year contract to help create the database that will compile an array of biometric information — from palm prints to eye scans.

Kimberly Del Greco, the FBI’s Biometric Services section chief, said adding to the database is “important to protect the borders to keep the terrorists out, protect our citizens, our neighbors, our children so they can have good jobs, and have a safe country to live in.”

ParanoiaWho could disagree with that? Bring on the libtards:

But it’s unnerving to privacy experts.

Yeah, protecting the borders, keeping the terrorists out, protecting our citizens and neighbors and children and having good jobs in a safe country is “unnerving.” What a bunch of bedwetters.

“It’s the beginning of the surveillance society where you can be tracked anywhere, any time and all your movements, and eventually all your activities will be tracked and noted and correlated,” said Barry Steinhardt, director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Technology and Liberty Project.

Law EnforcementThis same old garbage is trotted out whenever law enforcement attempts to get the upper hand on criminals and terrorists. It’s the same old song and dance. Hey ACLU, if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to fear. The fact that the ACLU was founded by anarchists and communists determined to tear America into shreds and make it a Marxist utopia isn’t so bad, is it? Why hide that irrefutable fact? Stand up for your beliefs, proudly!

The FBI has also started collecting mug shots and pictures of scars and tattoos. These images are being stored for now as the technology is fine-tuned. All of the FBI’s biometric data is stored on computers 30-feet underground in the Clarksburg facility.

Tattoo and PiercingFirst of all, anyone who has a tattoo is obviously guilty of something. So I think it is blatantly obvious that these folks need trackable ankle bracelets and RFID implants. Perhaps it should be a law that you get an RFID implant or have it verified that you have one to get a tattoo or a facial piercing. But I’m just brainstorming here.

In addition, the FBI could soon start comparing people’s eyes — specifically the iris, or the colored part of an eye — as part of its new biometrics program called Next Generation Identification.

DataEveryone liked Star Trek: The Next Generation, right? So why not Next Generation Identification? It sounds so futuristic and cool. Sign all our libtard commenters up! I bet most of them are trekkies and criminals anyway!

The FBI plans a so-called “rap-back” service in which an employer could ask the FBI to keep the prints for an employee on file and let the employer know if the person ever has a brush with the law. The FBI says it will first have to clear hurdles with state privacy laws, and people would have to sign waivers allowing their information to be kept.

MC HammerYou leftists love rap (or hop hop) too, right? So prepare for the “rap-back.” It’s in America’s best interests. And if we can protect you from yourselves, it’s a win-win situation. G-d bless useful technology. G-d made us all unique, so he would smile on this new technology that celebrates it. So should us all.

— Psycheout

29 Comments »

  1. DESTROY THE ACLU NO ONE SHOULD EVER HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION OR BELIEF oh and we’re idiots so let’s forget the possibility that the FBI could be infiltrated and then possibly target us and then we’d be fucked.

    Comment by Dio Brando — February 4, 2008 @ 10:29 pm | Reply

  2. “First of all, anyone who has a tattoo is obviously guilty of something.”

    What if you have a tattoo of a lost loved one, or of Jesus or the Virgin Mary? What about those people that had tattoos on them beyond their will?

    Comment by Dio Brando — February 4, 2008 @ 10:31 pm | Reply

  3. “They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
    -Benjamin Franklin

    Comment by Elephant Bones — February 4, 2008 @ 10:36 pm | Reply

  4. Ever notice how lefties always rip on conservatives for looking towards the bible for truth in their lives yet they love to quote a long dead man that obviously would have little insight into today’s world. Kind of like the immoral, black hearted, liberal pot calling the righteous, G-dfearing, conservative kettle black. Quoting Ben Franklin to argue about the governments right to hunt for terrorists/democrats makes as much sense as quoting the future Honorable President Brownback for an argument back in the 1700’s involving the Federalist Papers. Using quotes from people that aren’t from this era, involving complex issues is just silly and is intellectual vapid. How do you know that Benny wouldn’t recognize that the threats posed by Islamo-facists and Democrats to this great country are worth giving the Federal Government more control in your life? You don’t since your making an argument using something you most likely read off a bumper sticker. You know, if you loved America and didn’t have anything to hide, this wouldn’t be an issue at all.

    Comment by Diablo — February 4, 2008 @ 10:59 pm | Reply

  5. Something tells me that it won’t be the “libtards” who’ll be whining when they start putting tracking chips in, say….firearms.

    Comment by ChenZhen — February 4, 2008 @ 11:07 pm | Reply

  6. “Quoting Ben Franklin to argue about the governments right to hunt for terrorists/democrats makes as much sense as quoting the future Honorable President Brownback for an argument back in the 1700’s involving the Federalist Papers.”
    So you criticize me for quoting something from the 1700s, yet find no problem letting a 2,000 year old book dictate they way you think? What the hell, man?

    Comment by Elephant Bones — February 4, 2008 @ 11:26 pm | Reply

  7. “Using quotes from people that aren’t from this era, involving complex issues is just silly and is intellectual vapid.”

    Hey kettle, this is pot. You’re black.

    Read: You and the rest of B4B quote snippets from a book made ~1,800 years ago, which was terribly mistranslated into English a number of centuries ago.

    Comment by Dio Brando — February 5, 2008 @ 1:18 am | Reply

  8. “all part of an effort the bureau says to better identify criminals and terrorists.”

    You mean people like you.

    Comment by Arn — February 5, 2008 @ 5:38 am | Reply

  9. Dio Brando- I think you missed my point a little. I’ve never quoted the bible at all. I am simply pointing out that looking towards the bible for answers for today’s issues is just as valid, or invalid depending n your point of view, as looking towards our Founding Fathers’ writings and opinions. I’m not commenting on weather or not either is correct or not.

    Comment by Diablo — February 5, 2008 @ 9:34 am | Reply

  10. Mr. Psycheout, if you are so anxious to create this giant, biometric database under the oversight of the FBI (and who knows what other “trustworthy” government officials) why stop there? Potential criminals might still slip through the cracks.

    People can go unidentified, change certain biometrics, and, most easily of all, hack readers, RFIDs, databases, etc.

    Why risk letting potential wrong-doers go unnoticed?!?!

    The only truly SAFE solution for the utmost protection is to install cameras in the homes, cars, and workplaces of all citizens and visitors to the US. Even the most dangerous criminals can sometimes appear benign so it would be a risk to let anyone go without surveillance.

    Why don’t we start with you Mr. Psycheout? Certainly you have nothing to hide,… unless you are a criminal yourself. If you are truly innocent you should have no objection to putting your entire life on display and letting those with authority intervene per their better judgment.

    Let’s put a camera on you 24/7. Let’s follow your movements, read your correspondence, record your calls, log your purchases, and authorize officials to take action against you should you act in a manner deemed “suspicious” or undesirable for society in general (per their determination).

    Personally, Mr. Psycheout, I’m guessing you are just out of your teens (maybe 20-21), just BEGINNING your education, and still with a GREAT deal to learn from history, about modern technology, and about using logic in presenting an opinion. I realize you are probably trying to sound sophisticatedly tongue-in-cheek, but in reality you come off as a naive teenager who skipped most of high school because he was too busy getting stoned and watching MTV. Your positions certainly have that level of credibility.

    Go get your GED. Learn what your talking about. In the meantime, stop posting blogs that blatantly display your lack of knowledge.

    Comment by Chippy — February 5, 2008 @ 12:56 pm | Reply

  11. The fact that the ACLU was founded by anarchists and communists determined to tear America into shreds and make it a Marxist utopia isn’t so bad, is it?

    The irony is that a merxist state would totally love having such a database about it´s citicens. Heck, ANY dictatorship would love to have it!

    Why hide that irrefutable fact? Stand up for your beliefs, proudly!

    Mostly because it´s neither irrefutable nor fact.

    “They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
    -Benjamin Franklin

    AMEN!

    Ever notice how lefties always rip on conservatives for looking towards the bible for truth in their lives yet they love to quote a long dead man that obviously would have little insight into today’s world.

    That´s because his words still make a lot of sense, unlike the bible.

    How do you know that Benny wouldn’t recognize that the threats posed by Islamo-facists and Democrats to this great country are worth giving the Federal Government more control in your life?

    Because when he was saying that, your country was facing a far WORSE threat?

    You know, if you loved America and didn’t have anything to hide, this wouldn’t be an issue at all.

    Please immediately post your name, adress, postal account and all other personal information here. After all, you have nothing to hide. Haven´t you?

    Comment by PG — February 5, 2008 @ 1:17 pm | Reply

  12. I am simply pointing out that looking towards the bible for answers for today’s issues is just as valid, or invalid depending n your point of view, as looking towards our Founding Fathers’ writings and opinions. I’m not commenting on weather or not either is correct or not.

    Actually, you noted:
    silly and is intellectual vapid.

    So then, do you agree that quoting from a book over 1,800 years old is just as silly and intellectually vapid?

    Comment by Jotaro Kujo — February 5, 2008 @ 1:38 pm | Reply

  13. I have nothing to hide from my government, especially since I am a vet in the VA healthcare system. I highly doubt there would be anything else I could possibly add. You know…its really nice to live with a clean conscious. You should try it sometime…

    Comment by Diablo — February 5, 2008 @ 1:43 pm | Reply

  14. “You know…its really nice to live with a clean conscious. You should try it sometime…”

    I find it impossible that you’ve never done anything wrong or regrettable, unless you lie to yourself– or have a memory made of pure FAIL.

    Comment by Dio Brando — February 5, 2008 @ 2:27 pm | Reply

  15. I have nothing to hide from my government, especially since I am a vet in the VA healthcare system. I highly doubt there would be anything else I could possibly add. You know…its really nice to live with a clean conscious. You should try it sometime…

    I´ll translate that: “I´m a lying bastard that has something to hide. Otherwise, I´d have put up my personal data here after all.”

    Comment by PG — February 5, 2008 @ 2:38 pm | Reply

  16. A super computer that profiles people? Sounds like a big government ploy to thrust s into Communism. People who support such a thing are bringing the KGB to America. Ironic that it’s the Conservative Right who want to turn America into the KGB controlled Kremlin. Fools. The ACLU is actually correct to oppose turning America into a Conservative Commie haven.

    Comment by BJ Hellboy Buttmuncher — February 5, 2008 @ 3:16 pm | Reply

  17. Feck your god. He probably hates you.

    Comment by The Nobody — February 5, 2008 @ 3:42 pm | Reply

  18. PG- Come on, you expect me to leave all my information on a public website? This would be like me saying “painted cross walks aren’t necessary” and then you expecting me to run across the LA Freeway. Also, Dio Brando, having a clean conscience doesn’t mean never making mistakes or having regrets..that’s what Baby Jesus’ love and forgiveness is for. I’ll pray for you.

    Comment by Diablo — February 5, 2008 @ 9:38 pm | Reply

  19. To think that, on first visiting this blog, I first thought it was satire. Part of me still hopes it is, but…..anyhow…

    How to make an apparantly good thing bad……

    ‘Overall, 107,000 Dutch Jews had been deported, of whom approximately 102,000 had perished. Probably another 2,000 had been killed, committed suicide or died of privation in Holland itself. The death toll represented almost 75% of the pre-war Jewish population, the highest proportion of Jewish fatalities for all of Nazi-occupied Western Europe. How could this have happened in a country renowned for its alleged tolerance and compassion? It is a difficult question to answer. Many reasons have been proposed, none of them wholly satisfactory. The Dutch were unfortunate to be governed by a fanatically Nazi, Austrian dominated administration. That the Dutch civil service was exceptionally efficient only worsened the situation.’
    http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/nazioccupation/holland/netherdeports.html ….

    Spot the risks and similarities?

    How to avoid an apparantly good thing going bad is sometimes to avoid doing it in the first place.

    Want to be in the cast of Niemöller’s epic some day?

    first they came for the…..
    …and then they came for the Brownbacks
    And by that time there was no one left to speak up.

    Go ahead with National Surveillance if you want

    Part of me says it would serve you right, but when I see people digging holes for themselves, I feel it’s my duty to try to help them put down the spade.

    @ BJ Hellboy Buttmuncher — February 5, 2008 @ 3:16 pm A super computer that profiles people? Sounds like a big government ploy to thrust s into Communism. People who support such a thing are bringing the KGB to America. Ironic that it’s the Conservative Right who want to turn America into the KGB controlled Kremlin. Fools. The ACLU is actually correct to oppose turning America into a Conservative Commie haven.

    Spot on. I visited Moscow in the early ’80s and we’re already heading right there. Travel restrictions are the immediately obvious frontrunner. Neighbourhood informants, domestic electronic surveillance and restrictions and the like some way down the line yet, but there are signs of moving that way. All brought in under the guise of eminently ‘reasonable’ things, that people like this poster have no experience of the dangers of.

    Comment by Ho Hum — February 5, 2008 @ 9:44 pm | Reply

  20. PG- Come on, you expect me to leave all my information on a public website? This would be like me saying “painted cross walks aren’t necessary” and then you expecting me to run across the LA Freeway. Also, Dio Brando, having a clean conscience doesn’t mean never making mistakes or having regrets..that’s what Baby Jesus’ love and forgiveness is for. I’ll pray for you.

    Communist liberals(haha, what a horribly clashing combination) invented sidewalks. Jesus will save you.

    So you’re fine if every mistake or ill deed(even accidental) is know to the public? You’re conflicting, here. You won’t post personal data, but you’re an advocate for a total lack of privacy? Why won’t you give us your data? Is the F.B.I. any better?

    Comment by Dio Brando — February 5, 2008 @ 10:50 pm | Reply

  21. PG- Come on, you expect me to leave all my information on a public website? This would be like me saying “painted cross walks aren’t necessary” and then you expecting me to run across the LA Freeway.

    You have no problems leaving them in a government database where, with some luck, even the god-damn janitors can look them up. What´s the differrence?

    Comment by PG — February 6, 2008 @ 6:43 am | Reply

  22. Whether you like it or not, Diablo, all of your personal information is already available on the web. I could take your IP (which is easy to trace) and get your home address, home phone, credit history, police and IRS records, driver license information, and even your educational background. If you’ve ever been to court, anyone can walk into the courthouse and walk out with your court records. Your privacy is non existant and has been for a long time. If you have a cell phone you can even be tracked step by step. Believe me, the folks on this site are the very least of your worries if you want all of your information to remain private.

    Comment by Arn — February 6, 2008 @ 6:59 am | Reply

  23. Diablo, you have far too much faith in our government. Governments are not made up of gods, but of fallible human beings, with the same sin and weakness as any of us.

    That’s why, I agree with Huckabee and Ron Paul when they say that the federal income tax should be abolished. The government has no business knowing exactly what I make, who I worked for and when. My closest friends know less about me than the IRS. This is dangerous, and should a corrupt leader take power, he will use our personal information against us.

    Our country is truly great. But like the ancient republic on which it was based, it too will one day fall. I would prefer this to happen later rather than sooner. I would also prefer NOT to have to use my Second Amendment rights to defend my right to privacy, as I am not trained in the use of firearms and my poor aim is, sadly, as likely to kill friend as foe.

    Comment by L — February 6, 2008 @ 11:32 am | Reply

  24. And yes, I did agree with Huckabee on something. Sense does occasionally grace the lips even of a madman.

    Comment by L — February 6, 2008 @ 11:58 am | Reply

  25. Very many rights would be given up, even the right to free speech. What if the ruling party doesn’t like what you have to say? Whether your statements are right or wrong, you could very well be silenced. If you don’t follow the rules set forth by the governing party at the time. What if these rules alienate the inalienable rights of humankind?

    The Arian race was the ruling party of a government that used tracking systems to track their prisoners; prisoners that by birth were in violation of the party’s laws and decrees.

    This is very troubling to me to give the now governing party such power when we do not know who will be the new governing party. What if this new party said that blonde haired and blue eyed people were an inferior race and needed to be cleansed from the earth? What if your religion is targeted as your wrongdoing? What if you have to sign a waiver of no religion or ascribe to atheism or some religion the governing party mandates. What if you have to worship a human…with no real right for worship? What if this causes your death?

    Be very careful of the temporary freedoms that you give to the temporary ruling party. I am a conservative Christian and have a tattoo. I do not feel they are morally right to have, but not should not be punishable by law. God Almighty allows the free moral agency of all humans, although this is not to advocate immorality of any kind. But, what if a certain ruling class decided what the morality of the day was to be and enforced their beliefs on their populace?
    What if your implanted RFID chip or whatever technology had the ability to kill you? These technologies are all scalable. I am a database programmer and a major part of my job is to get information on people. I understand the dangers involved. I understand that even the best encryption can be decrypted. Who has the decrypting key?

    Please forgive me if I have offended anyone, I try to be very open minded while holding very very conservative beliefs about life and morality. And I do sincerely apologize to anyone who might have been hurt in any way by my commentary. Please take it in a way that you would like for your comments to be taken by others. This not an attack on anyone. Thank you…LW

    Comment by LW — February 6, 2008 @ 12:11 pm | Reply

  26. It’s not the government I fear having access to my personal information. Using shear odds of population numbers in comparison to me and the Federal Government singling me out for punishment or abuse base solely on my information makes as much sense as me building a bunker under my house for the next tornado to plow through Baltimore City. Now if I leave all my personnel information here on this website,the government isn’t going to care. I will get abused not by the Federal Government, but some little nitwit that doesn’t like my points of view or logical arguments. I don’t fear the Federal Government because I have done nothing wrong. I do fear little peons sitting at their computers harassing and attacking people, using whatever evil methods they can use to bring someone down. Now if you are talking about computer and record security within the Federal Government, then yes, I do have a problem with how the federal government stores private information (your talking to a vet here and believe me, the Department of Veteran’s affairs loses laptops like they’re spare change), and it needs to change. But are you guys really that freaked out or surprised that the government wants to collect information about us? This ain’t exactly new here at all. Its really just a more in depth census.

    Comment by Diablo — February 7, 2008 @ 10:54 am | Reply

  27. Well, if you have a problem with how the feds store your data, how well-managed do you think an entire individual-specific data and tracking system would be?

    Hell, gov’t information has been lightly hacked in the past, and they use an entirely different OS!

    Comment by Dio Brando — February 7, 2008 @ 2:11 pm | Reply

  28. LW, please stay. We need more sane people

    Comment by Elephant Bones — February 7, 2008 @ 2:22 pm | Reply

  29. “@ BJ Hellboy Buttmuncher — February 5, 2008 @ 3:16 pm A super computer that profiles people? Sounds like a big government ploy to thrust s into Communism. People who support such a thing are bringing the KGB to America. Ironic that it’s the Conservative Right who want to turn America into the KGB controlled Kremlin. Fools. The ACLU is actually correct to oppose turning America into a Conservative Commie haven.”

    “Spot on. I visited Moscow in the early ’80s and we’re already heading right there. Travel restrictions are the immediately obvious frontrunner. Neighbourhood informants, domestic electronic surveillance and restrictions and the like some way down the line yet, but there are signs of moving that way. All brought in under the guise of eminently ‘reasonable’ things, that people like this poster have no experience of the dangers of.”

    Comment by Ho Hum — February 5, 2008 @ 9:44 pm

    These words ring so dangerously true that it amazes me how many of the more *cough* Conservative people here just can’t see past their blinders.

    The so-called modern Conservatives have abandoned their small government views and added more beaurocracy than ever. We have more agencies and departments now than ever.

    Comment by spacebrother — February 7, 2008 @ 4:28 pm | Reply


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