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December 14, 2007

Communism!

This should come as no surprise, to anyone who’s ever read the Communist Manifesto and/or the Democrat Party political platform:

The Senate moved against the worsening mortgage crisis Friday, voting to make it easier for thousands of homeowners with ballooning interest rates to refinance into federally insured loans.

The legislation, approved 93-1, would allow the Federal Housing Administration to back refinanced loans for borrowers who are delinquent on payments because their mortgages are resetting to sharply higher rates from low initial “teaser” levels.

The bill also tries to make FHA loans more attractive than risky subprime loans by accepting lower down payments and expanding the eligibility for counseling for homeowners having difficult with their mortgage payments.

An estimated 2 million to 2.5 million adjustable-rate mortgages are scheduled to reset in the next year, jumping to much steeper rates that could cost borrowers their homes. The wave could crest during the presidential and congressional election campaigns next year, and politicians have been wrestling with what the government’s response should be.

The Senate’s proposed changes are especially important now, given the credit crisis that has made it much more difficult and more expensive for people to refinance or get financing to buy a home. Private lenders have been reluctant to make new loans.

Allowing the federal government to insure more and bigger loans should help provide some relief and ease the credit crunch.

Of course it provides relief. It’s a public welfare program for stupid people too lazy to read the terms of their mortgage contracts. It’s Communism by another name, the idea that the State is supposed to take care of everyones’ problems no matter how stupid or minor or trivial, or no matter how culpable the person is for them. Leftards want Big Brother to bail them out of every crisis, without fail.

It’s not unusual for Democrat voters to feel entitled to MY tax dollars when they do stupid things, nor is it unusual for pandering RINOs to go along with such measures for propoganda purposes. What IS unusual is for Senator Brownback to endorse such a shameful, Socialist, unAmerican measure.

I’m trying to figure out what God is making Senator Brownback do, here. Does God want to punish the American people for not flocking to Brownback’s standard as readily as they now swarm to Huckabee’s? Or is something else going on here? Is this Brownback being weighed in the balance, and found wanting? Or am I misreading things entirely? Am I being weighed in the balance, and found wanting?

I must pray on this. Please pray for me, and for Senator Brownback. And for yourselves, America.

UPDATE:  I forgot to mention my praise for Senator Kyl.  Kudos to the good Arizonan, and those who voted for him.  You’ve got a great Senator there, Arizona. 

74 Comments »

  1. This an outrage, first all the moonbats want my money because they lose their job, or the get cancer and have no health insurance but now they want their house loans fixed. They should have read the fine print when they took out those loans and frankly this is just stealing money from our hard working bankers! We mine as well paint the capital building red and put a hammer and sickle up after this.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — December 14, 2007 @ 5:51 pm | Reply

  2. E Pluribus Unum, BJ
    This is the USA, not the USA. Just because the government is looking out for its citizens doesn’t mean it’s Communism.

    Comment by Elephant Bones — December 14, 2007 @ 6:02 pm | Reply

  3. BJ Hellboys a dirty Commie. Jesus hates him.

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 14, 2007 @ 6:56 pm | Reply

  4. Sisyphus goes on another Paranoid Schizophrenic tyrade. What a maroon.

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 14, 2007 @ 6:58 pm | Reply

  5. For those questioning, and by questioning I mean blasphemy, the Honorable Senator Brownback, I suggest you turn to the bible. Does not G-d test his people? Surely the Honorable Senator Brownback is simply testing us to see who is loyal and who are just faking. Well I am loyal, Honorable Senator Brownback. I realize I will never understand the wonders that is your will and simply throw myself and my vote at your mercy. I look forward to the terrible punishments you will throw upon those that question your mighty will!!!

    Comment by Diablo — December 14, 2007 @ 8:06 pm | Reply

  6. Sounds like Diablo is worshiping the servant, not the man. Idol worship is a pretty big sin, no?

    Comment by Elephant Bones — December 15, 2007 @ 1:57 am | Reply

  7. If a liberal gets cancer, it is God’s judgement against them. We are not to try to fight God through government. I encourage you simply not pay your welfare taxes, Sisyphus.

    Comment by Bob_Corker — December 15, 2007 @ 11:44 am | Reply

  8. That’s the best idea I’ve ever heard Bob say. Sisyphus, I think that’s a fantastic way to fight the system.

    Comment by Elephant Bones — December 15, 2007 @ 11:49 am | Reply

  9. Dear Lord, where did this Diablo come from? Brownback’s mighty will! What the hell does that mean? Does he think Brownback is God?

    Now here is a man on his way to the padded room. Let’s all wish him well in his dementia.

    Comment by Arn — December 15, 2007 @ 11:57 am | Reply

  10. Only one with no soul confuses faith with dementia. I’m sure if you had your way, Pentecostals would be forced to take anti-seizure medication by police. Wow, hard to believe there are people out there so anti-faith. I will pray for you…

    Comment by Diablo — December 15, 2007 @ 12:18 pm | Reply

  11. “Wow, hard to believe there are people out there so anti-faith.”

    If you find one, Diablo, shoot it on sight. That’s the only way you can deal with atheist vermin that feel like they need to be attention WH****.

    Comment by Bob_Corker — December 15, 2007 @ 12:29 pm | Reply

  12. Mr Bob_Corker, it is extremely difficult to say this, but I must humbly disagree. We must never return the violence thrown at us by the anti-faithful. Sure its a normal response to their sad and pathetic way they clutch their false idols and pray to their fake deities of “Science”,”Humanism”,”Evolution”, and “Non Faith Based Medical Care”. We must turn the other cheek and ready the re-educational camps that were built in Texas and parts of Oklahoma by the Department of Homeland Security. Once the Honorable Senator Brownback takes his rightful place, each and every one of the mentally and morally defective member of the Democratic Cult can receive the one on one care normally reserved for those at Gitmo. See Mr Bob_Corker? We don’t have to soil ourselves by lowering to their hate filled level. Amen and Baby Jesus Bless.

    Comment by Diablo — December 15, 2007 @ 12:54 pm | Reply

  13. At first, your logic seems correct, Mr. Diablo. Charles Flowers would seem like an excellent person to reaffirm faith in Scripture.

    However, Scripture instructs us to kill those that knowingly assault Christianity:

    Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

    Exodus 23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their image

    23:32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods.
    Stay away from those that believe differently than you. Do not make treaties with them or allow them to live in your land.

    23:33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.

    34:13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: Ye shall destroy their altars.
    34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God

    24:10-23 And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father was an Egyptian, went out among the children of Israel: and this son of the Israelitish woman and a man of Israel strove together in the camp;
    And the Israelitish woman’s son blasphemed the name of the Lord, and cursed. And they brought him unto Moses: (and his mother’s name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan:)
    And they put him in ward, that the mind of the LORD might be shewed them.
    And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
    Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
    And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Whosoever curseth his God shall bear his sin.
    And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death. What the Bible says about blasphemy, stoning, and capital punishment
    And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death.
    And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast.
    And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him;
    Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.
    And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death.
    Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.
    And Moses spake to the children of Israel, that they should bring forth him that had cursed out of the camp, and stone him with stones. And the children of Israel did as the LORD commanded Moses.

    24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

    Deuteronomy 5:7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.

    6:15 (For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.

    7:5-6 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. Destroy the altars, images, and places of worship of those with different religions.
    For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

    7:10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face

    Give me a moment; I’ll get more soon.

    Comment by Bob_Corker — December 15, 2007 @ 1:39 pm | Reply

  14. I stand corrected.

    Comment by Diablo — December 15, 2007 @ 2:18 pm | Reply

  15. Did anyone watch that video on you tube? that dude would make a fine addition to this crew. Of course he admitted he was joking and you should read the bible instead of trying to kill athiests. But during the main part of his speach he sounded a lot like the b4b team,,, you know, kill, kill, kill.

    Comment by Arn — December 15, 2007 @ 2:18 pm | Reply

  16. 7:25-26 The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therin: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God. “The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire … for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God.”
    Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.

    8:19-20 And it shall be, if thou do at all forget the LORD thy God, and walk after other gods, and serve them, and worship them, I testify against you this day that ye shall surely perish.
    As the nations which the LORD destroyeth before your face, so shall ye perish; because ye would not be obedient unto the voice of the LORD your God

    12:2 Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:
    And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.

    12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise

    13:6-10 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers
    If your brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend tries to get you to worship another god, “thou shalt surely kill him, thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death.”
    Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
    Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
    But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
    And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

    13:12-16 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
    Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
    Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
    Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
    And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.
    And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers;

    17:2-7 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
    And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
    And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
    Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
    At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
    The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.

    17:12-13 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.
    And all the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more presumptuously.

    29:18-20 Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the LORD our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and wormwood;
    And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst:
    The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven.

    32:19-20 And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.
    And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

    Joshua

    24:19-20 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye cannot serve the LORD: for he is an holy God; he is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins. God is jealous and will never forgive you for your sins. And if you worship other gods, “He will turn and do you hurt, and consume you.”
    If ye forsake the LORD, and serve strange gods, then he will turn and do you hurt, and consume you, after that he hath done you good.

    Judges
    2:1-3 And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.
    And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this?
    Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you.

    2:12 And they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the LORD to anger

    It is also worth noting that Saul could not become king because he didn’t kill the witches:
    1 Samuel
    15:23-26 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king. (15:23-26)
    And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the LORD, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice.
    Now therefore, I pray thee, pardon my sin, and turn again with me, that I may worship the LORD.
    And Samuel said unto Saul, I will not return with thee: for thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, and the LORD hath rejected thee from being king over Israel

    1 Kings 21:13 And there came in two men, children of Belial, and sat before him: and the men of Belial witnessed against him, even against Naboth, in the presence of the people, saying, Naboth did blaspheme God and the king. Then they carried him forth out of the city, and stoned him with stones, that he died.

    2 Kings
    1:4 Now therefore thus saith the LORD, Thou shalt not come down from that bed on which thou art gone up, but shalt surely die. And Elijah departed.
    1:17 So he died according to the word of the LORD which Elijah had spoken. And Jehoram reigned in his stead in the second year of Jehoram the son of Jehoshaphat king of Judah; because he had no son.

    1:9-12 Then the king sent unto him a captain of fifty with his fifty. And he went up to him: and, behold, he sat on the top of an hill. And he spake unto him, Thou man of God, the king hath said, Come down.
    And Elijah answered and said to the captain of fifty, If I be a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And there came down fire from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty.
    Again also he sent unto him another captain of fifty with his fifty. And he answered and said unto him, O man of God, thus hath the king said, Come down quickly.
    And Elijah answered and said unto them, If I be a man of God, let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And the fire of God came down from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty.

    1 Chronicles
    5:25-26 And they transgressed against the God of their fathers, and went a whoring after the gods of the people of the land, whom God destroyed before them.
    And the God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, and the spirit of Tilgathpilneser king of Assyria, and he carried them away, even the Reubenites, and the Gadites, and the half tribe of Manasseh, and brought them unto Halah, and Habor, and Hara, and to the river Gozan, unto this day.

    2 Chronicles
    14:2-5 And Asa did that which was good and right in the eyes of the LORD his God:
    For he took away the altars of the strange gods, and the high places, and brake down the images, and cut down the groves:
    And commanded Judah to seek the LORD God of their fathers, and to do the law and the commandment.
    Also he took away out of all the cities of Judah the high places and the images: and the kingdom was quiet before him.

    15:13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

    15:16 And also concerning Maachah the mother of Asa the king, he removed her from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove: and Asa cut down her idol, and stamped it, and burnt it at the brook Kidron.

    23:17 Then all the people went to the house of Baal, and brake it down, and brake his altars and his images in pieces, and slew Mattan the priest of Baal before the altars.

    34:1 Josiah was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem one and thirty years.
    And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, and walked in the ways of David his father, and declined neither to the right hand, nor to the left.
    For in the eighth year of his reign, while he was yet young, he began to seek after the God of David his father: and in the twelfth year he began to purge Judah and Jerusalem from the high places, and the groves, and the carved images, and the molten images.
    And they brake down the altars of Baalim in his presence; and the images, that were on high above them, he cut down; and the groves, and the carved images, and the molten images, he brake in pieces, and made dust of them, and strowed it upon the graves of them that had sacrificed unto them.
    And he burnt the bones of the priests upon their altars, and cleansed Judah and Jerusalem.

    Psalms

    50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.

    14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good

    53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good

    59:5 Thou therefore, O LORD God of hosts, the God of Israel, awake to visit all the heathen: be not merciful to any wicked transgressors. Selah.

    59:8 But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision.

    This particular verse should clear up ANY misconception about God.
    59:10 The God of my mercy shall prevent me: God shall let me see my desire upon mine enemies.

    78:21-22 Therefore the LORD heard this, and was wroth: so a fire was kindled against Jacob, and anger also came up against Israel;
    Because they believed not in God, and trusted not in his salvation

    78:55 He cast out the heathen also before them, and divided them an inheritance by line, and made the tribes of Israel to dwell in their tents.

    110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries

    149:5-7 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.
    Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand;
    To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people

    Proverbs
    19:29 Judgments are prepared for scorners, and stripes for the back of fools.
    28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

    Jeremiah
    1:16 And I will utter my judgments against them touching all their wickedness, who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, and worshipped the works of their own hands.

    5:4 Therefore I said, Surely these are poor; they are foolish: for they know not the way of the LORD, nor the judgment of their God.

    12:17 But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.
    13:10 This evil people, which refuse to hear my words, which walk in the imagination of their heart, and walk after other gods, to serve them, and to worship them, shall even be as this girdle, which is good for nothing.

    16:10-11 And it shall come to pass, when thou shalt shew this people all these words, and they shall say unto thee, Wherefore hath the LORD pronounced all this great evil against us? or what is our iniquity? or what is our sin that we have committed against the LORD our God?
    Then shalt thou say unto them, Because your fathers have forsaken me, saith the LORD, and have walked after other gods, and have served them, and have worshipped them, and have forsaken me, and have not kept my law;

    17:4 And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.

    19:4,7-9 Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocents;
    And I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place; and I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies, and by the hands of them that seek their lives: and their carcases will I give to be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.
    And I will make this city desolate, and an hissing; every one that passeth thereby shall be astonished and hiss because of all the plagues thereof.
    And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them

    19:11 And shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Even so will I break this people and this city, as one breaketh a potter’s vessel, that cannot be made whole again: and they shall bury them in Tophet, till there be no place to bury.
    Thus will I do unto this place, saith the LORD, and to the inhabitants thereof, and even make this city as Tophet:
    And the houses of Jerusalem, and the houses of the kings of Judah, shall be defiled as the place of Tophet, because of all the houses upon whose roofs they have burned incense unto all the host of heaven, and have poured out drink offerings unto other gods.

    25:6 And go not after other gods to serve them, and to worship them, and provoke me not to anger with the works of your hands; and I will do you no hurt.

    44:8 In that ye provoke me unto wrath with the works of your hands, burning incense unto other gods in the land of Egypt, whither ye be gone to dwell, that ye might cut yourselves off, and that ye might be a curse and a reproach among all the nations of the earth?

    Ezekiel
    6:4-5 And your altars shall be desolate, and your images shall be broken: and I will cast down your slain men before your idols.
    And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of Israel before their idols; and I will scatter your bones round about your altars.

    8:14-15 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD’s house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz ( my note: Tammuz was the Sumero-Accadian god of plant life, for those unbelievers too stupid to read their Bibles like they say they do).
    Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.

    16:6-8 And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted in thine own blood, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live; yea, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live.
    I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.
    Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.

    20:7-8 Then said I unto them, Cast ye away every man the abominations of his eyes, and defile not yourselves with the idols of Egypt: I am the LORD your God. \
    But they rebelled against me, and would not hearken unto me: they did not every man cast away the abominations of their eyes, neither did they forsake the idols of Egypt: then I said, I will pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the midst of the land of Egypt.

    30:3 For the day is near, even the day of the LORD is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.

    37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

    39:6-7 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
    So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.

    44:10-12 And the Levites that are gone away far from me, when Israel went astray, which went astray away from me after their idols; they shall even bear their iniquity.
    44:11 Yet they shall be ministers in my sanctuary, having charge at the gates of the house, and ministering to the house: they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister unto them.
    44:12 Because they ministered unto them before their idols, and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity; therefore have I lifted up mine hand against them, saith the Lord GOD, and they shall bear their iniquity.

    Daniel 3:29 Therefore I make a decree, That every people, nation, and language, which speak any thing amiss against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill: because there is no other God that can deliver after this sort.

    Comment by Bob_Corker — December 15, 2007 @ 2:32 pm | Reply

  17. lol @ Arn’s comment

    Comment by Bob_Corker — December 15, 2007 @ 2:36 pm | Reply

  18. Why is the bible being re-printed here? Nobody is reading all of that, we’ve already read the bible, some of us have studied it most of our lives, we don’t need to be shown all these scriptures that have absolutely nothing to do with this thread. If you’re into a copy and paste fetish here, go find something relevant to copy.

    Comment by Arn — December 15, 2007 @ 2:38 pm | Reply

  19. I’m in a discussion with Diablo, Barn. Go away.

    Comment by Bob_Corker — December 15, 2007 @ 3:00 pm | Reply

  20. Atheism is a point of communism, anyways.

    Comment by Bob_Corker — December 15, 2007 @ 3:00 pm | Reply

  21. “For those questioning, and by questioning I mean blasphemy, the Honorable Senator Brownback, I suggest you turn to the bible.”

    Brownback is’nt Jesus dumbass. Maybe too you he’s the second coming but thats just worshipping false gods.

    “Does not G-d test his people? Surely the Honorable Senator Brownback is simply testing us to see who is loyal and who are just faking. Well I am loyal, Honorable Senator Brownback. I realize I will never understand the wonders that is your will and simply throw myself and my vote at your mercy.”

    Better yet, how about you giving yourself a pagan ritual sacrifice to the almighty Jesus H Brownback and kill yourself.

    “I look forward to the terrible punishments you will throw upon those that question your mighty will!!!”

    Comment by Diablo — December 14, 2007 @ 8:06 pm

    Oh great, another BDSM loving Marty McLame.

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 15, 2007 @ 3:03 pm | Reply

  22. “Sounds like Diablo is worshiping the servant, not the man. Idol worship is a pretty big sin, no?”

    Comment by Elephant Bones — December 15, 2007 @ 1:57 am

    You’re right EB. Brownback is Diablo’s personal Jesus.

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 15, 2007 @ 3:05 pm | Reply

  23. Sorry, I didn’t realise that Diablo didn’t have a bible of his own to read.

    Comment by Arn — December 15, 2007 @ 3:05 pm | Reply

  24. “Wow, hard to believe there are people out there so anti-faith.”

    “If you find one, Diablo, shoot it on sight. That’s the only way you can deal with atheist vermin that feel like they need to be attention WH****.”

    Comment by Bob_Corker — December 15, 2007 @ 12:29 pm

    But first, shoot KKKorKKKer for his deep rooted bigotry.

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 15, 2007 @ 3:07 pm | Reply

  25. Maaaaaaannnnnnnn……That KKKorKKKer character sure does ramble on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on…………..

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 15, 2007 @ 3:10 pm | Reply

  26. “At first, your logic seems correct, Mr. Diablo.”

    comment by Crocker

    here’s one for everyone to laugh at. Logic.

    UUHHH,,, anyone care to point out the logic in any of their comments?

    Comment by Arn — December 15, 2007 @ 3:32 pm | Reply

  27. “But first, shoot KKKorKKKer for his deep rooted bigotry.”

    I knew you were pro-Satanism all along, Nazi boy.

    Comment by Bob_Corker — December 15, 2007 @ 3:55 pm | Reply

  28. “I knew you were pro-Satanism all along, Nazi boy.”

    Comment by Bob_KKKorKKKer — December 15, 2007 @ 3:55 pm

    No thanks. I’m not participating in your little KKKlan lynchings KKKKorKKKer.,

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 15, 2007 @ 4:10 pm | Reply

  29. Here in Jeremiah it also talks about God’s fierce anger because the burning of the babies to the false gods…

    Jeremiah 32:27-35

    I am the Lord, the GOd of all mankind. Is anything too hard for me? Therefore, this what the Lord says: I am about to hand this city over to the BGabylonians and to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, who will capture it. The Babylonians who are attacking this city will come in and set it on fire; they willl burn it down, along with the houses here the people provoked me to anger by burning incense on the roofs to Baal and by pouring out drink offerings to other gods. The people of Israel and Judah have done nothing but evil in my sight from their youth; indeed, the people of Israel have done nothing but provoke me with what hteir hands have made, declares the Lord. From the day it was built until now, this city has so aroused my anger and wrath that I must remove it from my sight. The people of Israel and Judah have provoked me by all the evil they have done–they, their kings and officials, their priests and prophets, the men of Judah and the people of Jeruslaem. They turned their backs to me and not their faces; though I taught them again and again, they would not listen or respond to discipline, They set up their abominable idols in the house that bears my Name and defiled it. They built high places for Baal in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molech, though I never command3ed, nor did it enter my mind, that they sould do such a detestable thing and so make Judah sin.

    And for the same reasons that the people sacrificed their innocent sons and daughters for selfish reasons and God destroyed them … So too, will He in this present age.

    Wake up, folks, you are provoking God’s fierce anger at your acts of Abortion, and advocacy of Abortion.

    Humble yourselves and submit to Almighty God!!!

    ~ Jeremiah

    Comment by lightofjesus — December 15, 2007 @ 8:05 pm | Reply

  30. “Wake up, folks, you are provoking God’s fierce anger at your acts of Abortion, and advocacy of Abortion.

    Humble yourselves and submit to Almighty God!!!”

    Amen! I think being pro-choice should be illegal. We should sentence anyone ‘pro-choice’ to be on the front lines, without their choice. That’ll teach them!

    Comment by Bob_Corker — December 15, 2007 @ 8:35 pm | Reply

  31. Wake up, folks, you are provoking God’s fierce anger at your acts of Abortion, and advocacy of Abortion.

    Humble yourselves and submit to Almighty God!!!”

    Amen! I think being pro-choice should be illegal. We should sentence anyone ‘pro-choice’ to be on the front lines, without their choice. That’ll teach them!

    Comment by Bob_KKKoKKKker

    (I choose for having this raving lunatiKKK KKKorKKKer banned, for I do have a choice, a brain and the right to speak what I want)

    Comment by MoxoM — December 16, 2007 @ 10:51 am | Reply

  32. Abort KKKorKKKer

    Comment by MoxoM — December 16, 2007 @ 10:51 am | Reply

  33. ….off topic nonsense….

    Comment by lightofjesus — December 15, 2007 @ 8:05 pm

    …..more off topic nonsense

    KKKomment by Bob_KKKorKKKer — December 15, 2007 @ 8:35 pm

    You two guys are the reason for birth control. The world does’nt need more outer fringe religious fantical nut jobs or KKK members.

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 16, 2007 @ 11:42 am | Reply

  34. agreed

    Comment by Elephant Bones — December 16, 2007 @ 2:05 pm | Reply

  35. You two guys are the reason for birth control.

    You can say that, Spaceboy, but the thing is, God hasn’t spoken to America yet, and when that day comes? I hope you are prepared, for the Murder of God’s children will assuredly come to an end.

    ~ Jeremiah

    Comment by lightofjesus — December 16, 2007 @ 3:20 pm | Reply

  36. Amen!

    Comment by Psycheout — December 16, 2007 @ 3:57 pm | Reply

  37. “I’m sure if you had your way, Pentecostals would be forced to take anti-seizure medication by police.”

    Comment by Diablo

    A Pentecostal came to my college once, presumably to convert people. His speech had the opposite effect–by insulting Baptists, Catholics, Methodists, and every other denomination he could think of, he only succeeded in turning the crowd against him. Hateful “Christians” like that make me ashamed to show my faith in public. So I hope you’ll excuse me for not feeling especially charitable towards that particular sect.

    “Sorry, I didn’t realise that Diablo didn’t have a bible of his own to read.”

    Comment by Arn

    Seriously. http://www.biblegateway.com has numerous versions of the Bible in various languages, searchable by chapter and verse, and by subject. There is no excuse for anyone on the Internet to claim they can’t find something in the Bible.

    Also, while I do agree that abortion is heinous and needs to be stopped, the Bible does not address it specifically. Go to Bible Gateway and look up “abortion.” Check every version. Number of hits: 0. We know abortion to be wrong because it takes an innocent human life. We know that the fetus is a human being because of scientific studies confirming the fact. The fact that God is against meaningless slaughter of innocents does indicate that He dislikes abortion as well, but He never explicitly states in the Bible that abortion is wrong, because abortion as we know it did not exist in Biblical times. Christian Logic 1, Fundamentalism 0.

    Comment by L — December 16, 2007 @ 4:37 pm | Reply

  38. Go to Bible Gateway and look up “abortion.” Check every version. Number of hits: 0.

    Oh, please. First of all there is only one version: KJV. Second of all, try looking up “murder” or “kill” instead. You might even find a commandment about it.

    Abortion is just a modern euphemism for murder. You’re making this too easy.

    Comment by Psycheout — December 16, 2007 @ 4:54 pm | Reply

  39. “If men strive, and hurt a women with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life” (Ex.21:22-23).

    The Bible doesn’t directly state opposition to abortion because abortion couldn’t be safely performed back then, but this verse shows that it would be against abortion. Abortionists are among the most selfish and heartless dogs I know.

    Pentecostals do tend to be idiots that belong in circuses. The best known Pentecostal, Pat Robertson, endorsed Giuliani.

    Comment by bobcorker — December 16, 2007 @ 5:25 pm | Reply

  40. L,

    If there is ever a mindless slaughter, it is one that the United States Abortion doctors have committed, with the blood of more than 443,000,000 innocents on their hands.

    ~ Jeremiah

    Comment by lightofjesus — December 16, 2007 @ 6:11 pm | Reply

  41. Oops, that was supposed to be 43,000,000 instead … but still, 43,000,000 is more than all the holocausts combined together.

    The African American Genocide–At least 11,000,000.

    The Jewish Genocide–11,000,000.

    Native American Genocide–5,000,000.

    And I can’t remember the other one…

    Those are sad facts, and how do we define Genocide, or Holocaust? By the victims who have no choice.

    ~ Jeremiah

    Comment by lightofjesus — December 16, 2007 @ 6:21 pm | Reply

  42. Jeremiah, being pro-choice should be a crime. What do you recommend their punishment be? The isolation box? Abortion is utterly disgusting, and I’d like to stop it before it happens.

    Comment by bobcorker — December 16, 2007 @ 6:24 pm | Reply

  43. Mr. Corker,

    Well, if we can make Abortion illegal, then that, for the most part, would cure 99.9% of the problem as far as the Murder of innocent unborn chilrdren.

    As to the intentions of the peoples hearts by being pro-choice, there’s really not much we can do to change their mind, but God can, and God will on Judgement day.

    For an eternity without the Lord will be more than sufficient, permanent punishment.

    So, the best thing we can do, is continue to pray for our government Leaders that the people will seek God’s face, and use their judgements wisely when election day comes next November 11.

    ~ Jeremiah

    Comment by lightofjesus — December 16, 2007 @ 6:38 pm | Reply

  44. Good point, Jeremiah. Although I would ideally like to stop the child from being murdered altogether, eternal damnation is a much more reasonable and practical punishment for them. The aborted kid will likely be recreated in a pro-life mother’s womb.

    Communists give many forced abortions. The Communist Party in America makes it illegal to be in their party unless you are pro-choice. Read “The Power and the Glory” by Graham Greene to see the evils of communism in all their ‘glory’.

    Comment by bobcorker — December 16, 2007 @ 6:41 pm | Reply

  45. B4B is truly blessed to have the wisdom of Jeremiah and Bob on our comment threads. Thank you so much for acting as a counter to the leftist scum that come here to ridicule us. We appreciate your input very much.

    It is for those such as you that we are here day after day. We are getting close to our first year anniversary of truth and fellowship.

    Without wonderful folk such as you, we would literally be nothing. Thanks for your continuing support. I’m so happy that G-d has steered you to us.

    Comment by Psycheout — December 16, 2007 @ 6:49 pm | Reply

  46. Thanks, Psycheout! I for one am truly blessed to be with you and Jeremiah as we march against liberalism. I can see happy times for us when we are in a huge glass dome while God lays fire and brimstone upon the liberal twerps and spherofascists that infest God’s great earth.

    Comment by bobcorker — December 16, 2007 @ 6:53 pm | Reply

  47. psycheout, are you honestly calling those brain dead little twerps a blessing,, your position as a parodist has been confirmed

    Comment by Arn — December 16, 2007 @ 7:47 pm | Reply

  48. I am only pro-choice in the sense that I believe the mother should have the option of putting her child up for adoption if she cannot afford to raise it, or it is the product of rape. I have never supported abortion, and your implication that I would take part in such butchery is sickening. My only issue is with you insisting that abortion is in the Bible, when it isn’t. Neither is cloning, but I doubt God likes that, either.

    Not every sin is specifically laid out in the Bible, because many of them were invented well after it was written.

    Also, attacking a pregnant woman =/= abortion. Abortion is when the mother of an unborn child deliberately has the fetus killed through surgical or chemical means. Both are reprehensible, but they are not identical.

    Also, the KJV clearly states on the title page, “Translated From The Original Tongues,” implying that there are previous editions of the Bible which are also Sacred Scripture. Or do you wish to imply that there was no real Bible prior to 1611?

    And lastly, I am not here to ridicule you, only to instruct. May God open your hearts and minds to the truth, that your souls may be saved.

    Comment by L — December 16, 2007 @ 8:13 pm | Reply

  49. psycheout, are you honestly calling those brain dead little twerps a blessing,, your position as a parodist has been confirmed

    I will ignore your non-sequiturs, since you’re a determined fool.

    Arn, your position as a jackass has been well established. Look in the mirror, buddy, before casting judgement upon me or the people I have praised for their wisdom.

    And why do you always use extra commas? I’ve noticed you using 2, 3 and 4 in a row. Is that just because you’re high on the pot?

    Comment by Psycheout — December 16, 2007 @ 8:18 pm | Reply

  50. My guess is that he means to do this “…” but misses the key. A common error, but one that is easily fixed. Arn, re-read your comments before you submit–the Grammar Police are patrolling again.😉

    Comment by L — December 16, 2007 @ 8:33 pm | Reply

  51. I suspect you are wrong, L, since he seems to be able to end strings of words resembling rambling sentences with a period okay. I think it’s just that he comments while blotto, since he’s almost always high.

    Comment by Psycheout — December 16, 2007 @ 8:46 pm | Reply

  52. *shrugs* Maybe he thinks it’ll make your site funnier?

    Comment by L — December 16, 2007 @ 8:54 pm | Reply

  53. My only issue is with you insisting that abortion is in the Bible, when it isn’t.

    L,

    The actual word “abortion” wasn’t, no…but it is clearly evident when the people of Isreal, Jerusalem, and Judah threw their babies alive into the fire at Molech how God felt about it, even after God had commanded them not too in the book of Exodus and Leviticus. You see, the proper translation for the word is Murder….So, it specifically deals with human life, and that to take innocent human life is Murder. He also instituted the Death Penalty for the act of Murder, Read Romans.

    ~ Jeremiah

    Comment by Jeremiah — December 16, 2007 @ 9:26 pm | Reply

  54. First, Psycheout, you praise Bob and Marty for their wisdom? They have none, they just spew a bunch of nonsensical bull mostly about killing people that they disagree with. Remember, bobcock said he was going to kill me,(shoot me in the head) but of course when I invited him to try he admitted he was chicken. Marty threatened me too, but like bobcock, he too was chicken. Is this the wisdom you speak of?
    The only explanation for any of this is that you are a parody. Your “wise” buddies have no brain, they just troll for arguements that they know they can’t win. There’s not a single normal intelligent person on earth that would believe any of the garbage you spew here. And you can quit with the blaming pot, pot is a harmless herb that has over a thousand proven uses, in industry and in medicine. Your post on the dangers of marijuana was proven wrong by your own sources (ie: a falsified report that the authors admitted was made for profit, with no research done at all) and you still stick by it, how stupid is that? Not to mention the fact that I have smoked it for 40 years and still have a higher IQ than you (care to challenge that statement? I can prove it if you like). Frankly, if this is not a parody, then you are all ready for the rubber room, but I prefer to think it’s a parody, nobody can really be as stupid as you folks seem to be, so the only explanation for it is that you are just trolling and don’t really believe any of it yourselves.

    As for my commas,,,,,, I can use as many of them as I like. No, L, it’s not typos trying for the ” key, it’s just me, I’ve used extra commas all my life, a comma is a pause, perhaps to me more commas are just for a longer pause. Anyway, I have had several of my works published by respected publishers and they have never edited out any of my extra commas, so I would think that you could find something just a bit more intelligent to complain about in my comments. You make lots of mistakes yourself, and Bob and Marty make more than any of us, so the comma thing has nothing to do with my pot smoking,,,,,,,,,, got it? If you have some kind of fear of commas, I suggest you get professional help with that.

    You have been proven wrong on almost every post on this site, yet you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge that fact. Only a parody or a complete fool would continue with the outragious claims made here. Which one are you?

    OOPS, that other one you praised for wisdom was Jeremiah, not Marty. I’ll withhold any opinions on him for now, I haven’t read many of his comments, however, I did notice that he agrees that the bible is against killing people, something that Bob constantly wants to do on a massive level (nuke everyone, that’s his motto). So for now, I just have to agree with Jeremiah, killing is wrong, and I strongly support the death penalty for the crimes of murder, rape, child abuse (including molestation) and even kidnapping. But I don’t believe anyone should be put to death for their own religious and political beliefs like bobby boy does.

    And L, the grammar police are always patrolling, they know we make more sense than they do, so the only comeback they have to a lot of things is to insult us for typos, it’s their way, I just ignore it. They’re trolling, and we can’t let them get a bite with every cast now can we?

    Comment by Arn — December 17, 2007 @ 9:11 am | Reply

  55. L: Please don’t get confused by that second paragraph, only the first part of it was to you, to explain my extra commas, the remainder about finding something better to complain about was directed at psycheout, he always complains about silly things like that when he has no intelligent arguement to post, it’s the way of this site, when in doubt, insult.

    Comment by Arn — December 17, 2007 @ 9:16 am | Reply

  56. “Communists give many forced abortions. The Communist Party in America makes it illegal to be in their party unless you are pro-choice. Read “The Power and the Glory” by Graham Greene to see the evils of communism in all their ‘glory’.”

    Comment by bobcorker — December 16, 2007 @ 6:41 pm

    The Communists also want to build the great fence of China around America as well. I guess the leaf falls very close to the tree.

    Comment by spacebrother — December 17, 2007 @ 10:37 am | Reply

  57. “B4B is truly blessed to have the wisdom of Jeremiah and Bob on our comment threads. Thank you so much for acting as a counter to the leftist scum that come here to ridicule us. We appreciate your input very much.

    It is for those such as you that we are here day after day. We are getting close to our first year anniversary of truth and fellowship.

    Without wonderful folk such as you, we would literally be nothing. Thanks for your continuing support. I’m so happy that G-d has steered you to us.”

    Comment by Psycheout — December 16, 2007 @ 6:49 pm

    You guys do like to support the Arian Nation don’t you?

    Comment by spacebrother — December 17, 2007 @ 10:38 am | Reply

  58. “Thanks, Psycheout! I for one am truly blessed to be with you and Jeremiah as we march against liberalism. I can see happy times for us when we are in a huge glass dome while God lays fire and brimstone upon the liberal twerps and spherofascists that infest God’s great earth.”

    Comment by bobcorker — December 16, 2007 @ 6:53 pm

    Being inside of a glass dome sounds like Commie talk to me. Kill yourself Corker.

    Comment by spacebrother — December 17, 2007 @ 10:40 am | Reply

  59. “Look in the mirror, buddy, before casting judgement upon me or the people I have praised for their wisdom.”

    Comment by Psycheout — December 16, 2007 @ 8:18 pm

    Ahhhh, you’re a practitioner of idolatry. Guess you already know you’re going to Hell.

    Comment by spacebrother — December 17, 2007 @ 10:43 am | Reply

  60. Arn is right again on all accounts.

    [Ed Note: Do you mean “counts?” LOL! You’re such an idiot! You is moidering the English language.]

    Comment by spacebrother — December 17, 2007 @ 10:47 am | Reply

  61. Arn, I didn’t mean the quotation key, I meant the period key, which is right next to the comma. Substituting quotation marks for a comma is hardly a common typo.😉

    On the subject of the poor, the Pope himself has criticized the current state of affairs in America and around the world:

    “After the terrorist attacks against the United States of September 11, 2001, the international community adopted severe measures against the risk of terrorism […] a renewal of their military apparatus and their weapons. On this basis, it seems correct to affirm that the current policy of state security threatens the very peace and security of the people it intends to defend.”

    “In a healthy family life we experience some of the fundamental elements of peace: justice and love between brothers and sisters; the role of authority expressed by parents; loving concern for the members who are weaker because of youth, sickness or old age; mutual help in the necessities of life; readiness to accept others and, if necessary, to forgive them.”

    “For the sake of peace, a common law is needed, one which would foster true freedom rather than blind caprice and protect the weak from oppression by the strong.”

    Did not Christ Himself say that what we do to the lowliest of men, we do to Him? Was Jesus not the homeless son of a poor carpenter? Would you call Jesus “lazy,” “irresponsible,” “criminal,” or “demonic” as so many of you have done to the poor?

    Comment by L — December 17, 2007 @ 5:54 pm | Reply

  62. “I strongly support the death penalty for the crimes of murder, rape, child abuse (including molestation) and even kidnapping”

    This is your best comment yet, Arn. I’d add abortion (the doctors, and to a lesser enthusiasm the woman or, in the case of minors, their parent(s)) to the ‘vital to use the death penalty’ list. I’m not overly enthusiastic about homosexuals, blasphemers, adulterers etc., but the Bible says it must be done. I don’t expect to agree with Jeremiah on everything, that’s fine.

    Comment by bobcorker — December 17, 2007 @ 8:41 pm | Reply

  63. I’ll not render Judgement on anyone, all I can do is give you what the word of God says about Homosexuality — An important point.. first, Gay is the wrong word, the correct term for them is Sodomite, referring to those whom God had to destroy in Old Testament times, and if you read in Romans Chapter 1 the Lord laid on the heart of Paul what He seen in the hearts of the Sodomites, because you see, the Lord knows the every intent of the heart, He in turn showed Paul the intents of their hearts, and thus Paul writes…

    Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even thier women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in them the due penalty for the perversion.

    Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, He have them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God’s righeous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
    ———————————————–

    So, essentially, since the Sodomites took the Spirit that God gave them, and through their decisions and actions turned against God, God in turn handed their Spirit over to Satan, which means that He left them, and in all this there is a process, in which 7 different demons take over the hearts and minds of the Sodomites until all reason totally leaves them due to the blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

    That is the most detestable sin against God, is blasphemy against God Holy Spirit, and a scary thought to know that God’s hand of protection leaves them.

    So, seeing that is the case, Sodomites DO NOT deserve an honorary role of ANY KIND, their role is citizen, and citizen ALONE.

    The problem is, right now our laws are bending to the desire of the Sodomites, and that shouldn’t be, that’s why we need LEADERS in our government who will extricate the Sodomites within our honorable Military, and that will make marriage as between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN only.

    That’s why I’ve been trying to tell you, folks, if a Democrat such as Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Edwards, Rudy Giuliani is to capture the White House next year, this country is in serious trouble. I’m telling you, I’m not projecting, no, I’m TELLING you!!

    That’s why it’s so very important to elect someone who will bring strong Moral and Spiritual Leadership to our White House such as Mike Huckabee.

    ~ Jeremiah

    Comment by Jeremiah — December 17, 2007 @ 9:59 pm | Reply

  64. Jeremiah, you seem very wise. I have one question: Is male sodomy worse than female sodomy? My answer is ‘they are different crimes’, because lesbians are defying the male hiearchy while male sodomists are directly condemned by God. I think lesbians fall under ‘adultery’, but you seem to know more about this than me.

    Comment by bobcorker — December 17, 2007 @ 10:33 pm | Reply

  65. Mr. Corker,

    I appreciate that, but speaking personally, I don’t have all the answers, for sure…and never will, but it is my prayer that some day I will, and hopefully, all of us will here, when the Lord returns.

    As far as discerning male and female Sodomy, you have to remember that the bible is the Word directly spoken to those who wrote it, if you go back in my last post and read the first part of the verse I quoted in Romans where Paul writes — Even thier women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones, is the same as, In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.

    So, He doesn’t treat them any differently, they’re both committing identical sins, and for that, was the reason God had to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. Now, if you go over in the 9th chapter of Romans verses 27,28, and 29, Paul speaks in reference to how…if it weren’t for God’s grace in destroying mankind at the 40 days and 40 nights of the Great Flood and at Sodom and Gomorrah when He did, the suffering that we would have to endure today. Paul reiterates upon what Isaiah once said long ago — Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea only the remnant will be saved. For the Lord will carry out his sentence on earth iwth speek and finality. It is just as Isaiah said previously: Unless the Lord Almighty had left us descendants, we would have become like Sodom, we would have been like Gomorrah.

    You know He didn’t just destroy the men, but the women also. Only those who kept His Righteous decree did He bring to safety, and remember what He said to Lot and his family, Don’t look back!!!, and what did Lot’s wife do? She looked back and God turned her into a pillar of salt, instantly.

    So, you see, that’s an important message, anyone who is in sin, and still has an open heart and is afforeded the opportunity to hear the message of God’s Word should turn away from their sin, and are not to look back, because each time we do that, you see, is when the Lord’s calling will eventually leave, because that’s one thing He cannot tolerate, is rejecting of His Holy Spirit, the conviction we feel when God is speaking to us.

    God loves each and everyone, the most vilest of sinners, and as He said, it’s not My will that ANY should perish, but that ALL would come to repentance

    And when we make that decision for the better by turning to Christ He says in 1 Corinthians 15:54-55 — When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”

    “Where, O death, is your victory?”
    “Where, O death, is your sting?”

    That’s the only hope that this world has, is through Jesus Christ Our Lord.

    God bless!

    ~ Jeremiah

    Comment by Jeremiah — December 17, 2007 @ 11:49 pm | Reply

  66. I like Jeremiah. Not because I agree with him, because I certainly do not; but he takes the time to make a decent argument rather than rambling on like Bob or any of the other conservative posters. Keep up the good work, Jeremiah, maybe you can knock some decency into these morons.

    Comment by Elephant Bones — December 18, 2007 @ 12:19 pm | Reply

  67. Arn is right again on all accounts.

    [Ed Note: Do you mean “counts?” LOL! You’re such an idiot! You is moidering the English language.]

    Comment by spacebrother — December 17, 2007 @ 10:47 am

    Where’s the grammer error? I meant and mean accounts. Maybe the koolade has eaten too many of your brain cells.

    [Ed Note: “Grammar.”]

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 18, 2007 @ 12:27 pm | Reply

  68. “An important point.. first, Gay is the wrong word, the correct term for them is Sodomite, referring to those whom God had to destroy in Old Testament times”

    Actually the Sodom and Gomorrah passage most often used to imply that homosexuality was the “sin of Sodom” could also be interpreted as one of hostility toward visitors. I personally tend to envision thugs with knives at the door, saying “Heard you had guests over, we’d like to meet ’em.” If sexual perversion were the sin of Sodom, why did Lot then say “I have two daughters, do whatever you want to them?” He was so desperate to protect the angels that he would allow his own daughters to be raped.

    And let’s not forget the dialogue between David and Johnathan. If that isn’t homoerotic subtext, I don’t know what is. I say, just stay straight, and leave the homosexuals for God to deal with as He sees fit. As mortal men, it is not our place to condemn sinners.

    “Is male sodomy worse than female sodomy?”

    “Female sodomy” is anal intercourse involving a woman, as the term “sodomy” is generally used to refer to anal intercourse. While I personally find it unsettling, I doubt it is anything to worry about. If a man wants to use the wrong entrance to his wife’s body that badly, let him! At least we know he won’t be producing children that way.

    Comment by L — December 20, 2007 @ 12:23 pm | Reply

  69. Where’s the grammer error? I meant and mean accounts. Maybe the koolade has eaten too many of your brain cells.

    [Ed Note: “Grammar.”]

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 18, 2007 @ 12:27 pm

    I was testing to see how close you pay attention.

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 20, 2007 @ 12:28 pm | Reply

  70. “Female sodomy” is anal intercourse involving a woman, as the term “sodomy” is generally used to refer to anal intercourse. While I personally find it unsettling, I doubt it is anything to worry about. If a man wants to use the wrong entrance to his wife’s body that badly, let him!

    Please, don’t paint us a picture. This is not a porno site. And if you bring up things such as the Cleveland Steamer or Glass Bottom Boat, you will be banned. So don’t go there.

    Comment by Psycheout — December 20, 2007 @ 12:31 pm | Reply

  71. “Cleveland Steamer or Glass Bottom Boat, you will be banned. So don’t go there.”

    Comment by Psycheout — December 20, 2007 @ 12:31 pm

    Ahhhh, you know about these things through personal experience. I guess the Fuzzy Musket is out of the question then.

    I won’t link it but the Urban Dictionary is a goldmine for juvenile humor based phrases.

    Comment by Spacebrother — December 20, 2007 @ 12:43 pm | Reply

  72. I don’t even know what those things are, Psycheout. And frankly, I don’t want to know. My point is, such perversions are self-defeating, because they cannot result in the conception of a child. Thus, the people who practice them will eventually die out. All you really have to do is wait it out, and discourage people from taking up these practices before they have the chance to start, and the problem will pretty much take care of itself, as the perverts die out without replacing themselves.

    Comment by L — December 20, 2007 @ 2:03 pm | Reply

  73. Just because I know it will irritate Psycheout to no end, I’m posting some of the more “creative” techniques I’ve heard of.
    Dirt Bike
    Leroy Jenkins
    300
    Double Fishhook
    Eiffel Tower
    Electrobulb Knob Slobber
    Field Goal
    Fizzy Lifting Drink
    Flying Lotus Blossom
    Gentleman
    Golden Star Fish
    Greg Louganis
    Quadruple Hucklebuck
    Ididerot
    Icey-Mike
    Kaminky Specia
    Land Shark
    Liberty Bell
    Moose Club
    Mushroom Tattoo
    Over the Top
    Native American Dad
    New York Style Taco
    Peacock Breeze
    Philly Fake Out
    Prized Marlin
    Red Wings
    Retrograde Wheelbarrow
    Roman Battle Helmet
    Rumbleblumpkin
    Screaming Seagull
    Snipper Snapper
    Snowballing
    Snarling Beast Monster
    Arabian Sunglasses
    Swedish Rodeo
    Team West Campus
    The Caroline Utton Smash
    The Grapevine
    The Q-TIP
    The Rodney Dangerfield
    The Southern Gentleman
    Tootsie Roll Subway Crash
    Tossing Salad
    Tucson T-Bone
    Under Dog
    Washington Surprise
    Volcano
    Xanadu
    Zamboni

    Research them at your own peril.

    Comment by Elephant Bones — December 20, 2007 @ 11:46 pm | Reply

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