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October 23, 2007

Richard Land Gets It Right

Richard LandThe GOP had better not take evangelicals for granted. Many of us will throw the Republican party overboard if they dare to demand that we vote for Rudy Giuliani. Don’t believe me? Well, Richard Land, president of The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC), a very influential voice of religious conservatives, makes it absolutely clear. And I applaud him for speaking out. Hot Air provides some key snippets from an interview with Newsweek. The entire interview is worthy of a read, so be sure to check it out.

NEWSWEEK: So we wanted to ask you, first of all, about the third party idea and whether it’s serious. A number of people are suggesting it is just a threat.

Land: My intuition [is that] this is not a bluff. If Giuliani is the nominee, there will be a third party. There are things that Giuliani could do to help mitigate the damage. But I have been in too many discussions over the last 15 years where evangelical leaders have said, “The one thing we will never allow to happen is for the Republican Party to take us for granted the way the Democrat Party too often takes the African-American community for granted.”
This is not a bluff…

NEWSWEEK: When Rudy says “I will appoint strict constructionist judges,” you are not hearing that?

Land: I hear it. I hear it.

NEWSWEEK: Well, you don’t hear Hillary saying that.

Land [turns to question a Newsweek reporter]: Could you vote for a Klansman?

[Reporter responds] No.

Land: You’ve answered my question. I cannot vote for someone who believes that it’s all right to stop a beating heart.

That’s absolutely right. The pro-life issue is simply non-negotiable. Hasn’t the Republican party learned this lesson yet? Will the GOP throw the 2008 Presidential election and all that social conservatives have worked for during the last several decades? They will do so at their peril. As Land says, “this is not a bluff.”  And evangelicals and socons cannot be blamed if this happens.  It’s up to the party to make the right choice.  We will not obediently submit if an intolerable candidate is selected.

Land also had some interesting things to say about Mitt Romney. If Mittens were nominated, it would not necessarily be a deal-breaker; it wouldn’t necessarily result in Richard Land and other evangelicals voting third party, but there are a number of concerns that potential voters would have. Mitt hasn’t done much, if anything, to qualm their fears.

What are the three or four things that he absolutely needs to say more vigorously?

For starters, he needs to quit trying to convince evangelicals that Mormonism is an orthodox, with a small “o,” Trinitarian, with a capital “T,” Apostolic, with a capital “A,” faith. He is not going to win that argument [and] he doesn’t need to try. That’s not the issue. Kennedy didn’t try to defend Catholicism. He defended the right of a Catholic to run for President. What I think Romney has to do is he has to give a speech in which he defends the right of a Mormon to run for president and appeals to Americans’ basic sense of fair play. I would encourage him to say that “there was no higher percentage of Mormons in my administration than there were Mormons in the percentage of the population in Massachusetts.”

That is a concern that has been expressed to me by my constituents–that he would have a disproportionate number of Mormons in his administration.

What did Romney say [when you suggested that]?

He said he would consider it. [But] he has not given that speech. I’ve seen him go to South Carolina and say things like, you know, “Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior.” Well, you know what, that ain’t going to work in South Carolina. The most generous description [evangelicals] will give [Mormonism] is the one that I give it, which is that it is the fourth Abrahamic religion, you know, Judaism being the first, Christianity being the second, and Islam being the third. And Joseph Smith plays the Mohammed figure in a fourth Abrahamic faith, but it is not a Trinitarian Christian faith.

Need I remind you that Mormonism isn’t Christian?

Brownbackers instinctively know that neither Giuliani nor Romney are acceptable; neither deserve their vote. If either choice is presented as the only one, they will look elsewhere: either third party or a write-in. You can count on it. This is no bluff.

See also: Rudy Giuliani: Soft on Child Molesters? Is this the kind of person that a President Giuliani would welcome into his cabinet?

— Psycheout

12 Comments »

  1. There will absolutely be a third party if Giuliani gets the nomination. But he won’t get it. 37% or so of Republicans currently support him. And that’s it. 63% evidently don’t like him at all and I predict that that super-majority will eventually crush Rudy’s campaign as “lower tier” candidates continue to pull out of the race and as Giuliani is forced to play defense in every debate from here on out.

    Comment by Jay — October 23, 2007 @ 10:05 pm | Reply

  2. Get a life!!! All you rteligious phonies a stupid, if you don’t vote for a Republican tahn Madam Hillary is your next President, not mine. Think Rudy is bad, she;ll be 400 times worse. So use your brains, if you have any before you condem Rudy think about what will become reality!!!

    Comment by joe gores — October 24, 2007 @ 5:33 am | Reply

  3. This wouldn’t be a worry at all if You listened to the Word of God and threw your support behind Rep. Tom Tancredo. Rep. Tom Tancredo has a whole suite of attractive positions that those in both the 63% AND the 37% Republican Voter Camps will find very Attractive. He has something for everybody except for the mexicans and the ten Republican Negroes out there…Dr. Rep. Ron Paul can have them if he wants.

    Comment by Hipple, Rev. Paul T. — October 24, 2007 @ 12:40 pm | Reply

  4. […] no it most certainly would not. Richard Land has made that clear. Pro-life Republicans have made that clear. Giuliani is simply a deal breaker. […]

    Pingback by I Don’t Think So « Blogs 4 Brownback — October 25, 2007 @ 4:57 am | Reply

  5. “That is a concern that has been expressed to me by my constituents–that he would have a disproportionate number of Mormons in his administration.”

    is that worse than having a disproportionate number of MORONS?

    I am so tired of these religious fanatics! I am renouncing my faith and admiting that any feelings I had for Sam Brownback were sexual in nature and that I would like to line up all the republican candidates for president and bugger them in the nethers.

    there I said it.

    Comment by UN-Happy Clam — October 25, 2007 @ 9:03 am | Reply

  6. what was this about again.

    oh yeah, jewliani is a puppet of the israelis which is why their cousin schmueli who owns and ”manages” all your mainstream and ‘alternative’ media sources promotes the crap out of him, even though he is an exact clone of hillary.

    anyone selling rePUBIC-cans or demoCRAPs as THE answer is deceiving you. third, 4th and 5th parties are the only way out of having our nation sold to the highest bidding conglomorates puppet, a’la jewliani, who meets the needs of the israelis.

    Comment by freedom isnt free — October 25, 2007 @ 11:37 am | Reply

  7. Whoo, Hooo! Democratic Woman President in 2008!!

    THANKS GUYS!!!!

    Comment by mposey — October 25, 2007 @ 11:42 am | Reply

  8. […] odds with other evangelicals, such as Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention, who pledged anybody but Rudy? Why, why, […]

    Pingback by A Tale of Two Endorsements « Blogs 4 Conservatives — November 7, 2007 @ 9:56 pm | Reply

  9. Jesus Christ is DEAD.
    THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by Anton — November 8, 2007 @ 1:59 pm | Reply

  10. I bet when the election arrives, you crybabies will vote Rudy even though he’s more liberal than Hillary.

    Comment by Spacebrother — November 8, 2007 @ 5:08 pm | Reply

  11. I make this solemn promise to you, spacey. I will never ever in the whole entirety of my life never even consider having the thought cross my mind of voting for Giuliani. I’d sooner vote for Mickey Mouse before I voted for that Satanic clown.

    You can take that to the bank. I’d sooner vote for your love interest, Ronnie Paul, before I’d vote for Rudy. And I’d never vote for Paul in a million jillion years.

    Comment by Psycheout — November 8, 2007 @ 8:15 pm | Reply

  12. Uh, I’m confused, aren’t you supposed to use links to support your stories by leading you to documentation that supports or even proves your points?

    Most of your links just lead to other blogs that are written by other idiots just like you,,,and the blog itself is just copied portions of the only link that wasn’t a blog,, hardly supportive of your point at all.

    Oh yeah, and just what exactly is your point? Feeling a bit confused about your party now that your hero is no longer in the run?

    Comment by Arn Lewis — November 8, 2007 @ 8:48 pm | Reply


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