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August 1, 2007

This is Sparta!

Filed under: Defending America,Entertainment,Open Thread,Terrorism — Sisyphus @ 7:25 am

300I’ve just gotten the DVD of “300.” I intend to watch it as frequently as my work schedule permits, in the coming days and weeks. This is one of those rare treasures that come from treefrog Hollywood- a film that isn’t afraid to tell the truth.

Freedom isn’t free. Eternal vigilance is a heavy price to pay for the fruits of liberty, but it is one that neither the Spartans nor the Americans have flinched at for even a moment. The Spartans faced down the Persian slave-machine, and the Americans do the same with the Islamist one.

I find myself wishing that Sparta’s traditions had survived from antiquity. A Greece ruled by the Spartan traditions and Spartan people instead of by the vapid, homosexual, degenerate Athenians would be a powerful ally indeed in the War on Terror. A Greece ruled by such a Sparta would undoubtedly relish the chance to teach the unspeakably evil nation of Persia yet another lesson in the fighting merit of free men over that of slaves.

Unfortunately, such a Sparta no longer exists. However, the tradition of freedom, and of free men fighting in its defense, lives on. It lives on in the hearts and minds and bodies of every man, woman and child of the United States of America. It lives on in the noble fight to save our freedom by eliminating the slavery of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Iran. It lives on in the soul of a nation at peace, at war, forever endowed with liberty and the prosperity bestowed on it by a merciful and loving Almighty.

May God bless these United States.

 UPDATE:  At the end of the day, anyone who’s not in favor of Sparta is objectively pro-Persia.  Notice how few liberals are willing to attack the sins of the ultimate tyrannical slaver-state, Persia?  They admire it for its unspeakable sexual depravity.  But every tiny foible of Sparta (whether real, or grossly exaggerated by their pederast Athenian adversaries) is blown out of proportion.  This is very typical of the dishonest tactics employed by the Left.  Even a noble hero of immortal renown like Leonidas is not immune from their slanders.

55 Comments »

  1. Dear Sisyphus,

    I will first have my husband view the film first to ensure that it is appropriate for the female viewer. From what I have heard there is an exorbitant amount of footage with partially-naked men and that is not something I feel is fitting for a decent Christian lady to be subjected to. Have you allowed your own wife to see this film? I resepct your position completely and would appreciate your direction.

    In His Service I pray for Sam Brownback to be elected the next United States of God President and for your prompt advice.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — August 1, 2007 @ 7:50 am | Reply

  2. “I will first have my husband view the film first to ensure that it is appropriate for the female viewer. From what I have heard there is an exorbitant amount of footage with partially-naked men and that is not something I feel is fitting for a decent Christian lady to be subjected to. Have you allowed your own wife to see this film? I resepct your position completely and would appreciate your direction.”

    That is an excellent point, Mrs. Gaines-Crockett. It goes without saying that women should not be exposed to the male forms depicted in this film. Your husband will benefit enormously from viewing this movie: for you or any other woman, however, it would likely stir unwholesome and unGodly thoughts of carnality. You would be well advised to refrain from viewing this film. But rest assured, it is a marvelous one.

    “In His Service I pray for Sam Brownback to be elected the next United States of God President”

    Amen!

    Comment by Sisyphus — August 1, 2007 @ 8:01 am | Reply

  3. Yes I think Sparta should serve as a role model for the New American State, that will replace our existing Republic, which has proven itself to be a failure.

    The current system is not generating enough True Christian Warriors to defeat the IslamoFacist Hordes, or enough free cash. We need to institute the Helot system and strip away citizenship rights from about 50% of the inhabitants of this country.

    We can copy an important method of increasing our defense capabilities from the Spartans:

    “the Spartans used helot women as a means of meeting the state’s needs in terms of human resources: the ‘bastards’ (nothoi) born of Spartan fathers and helot women held an intermediary rank in Lacedaemonian society (cf. mothakes and mothones below) and swelled the ranks of the citizen army. It is difficult to determine whether these births were the results of voluntary liaisons (at least on the part of the father) or part of a formal state programme. It is likely that girls born of such unions, serving no military purpose, were exposed at birth and left to die [8].”

    Comment by Happy Clam — August 1, 2007 @ 8:06 am | Reply

  4. Yes I think Sparta should serve as a role model for the New American State, that will replace our existing Republic, which has proven itself to be a failure.”

    Sparta had an excellent system, Happy Clam. It lasted for well over 8 centuries, and they kept themselves and their fellow Greeks free. We would be well-advised to adopt much, if not all, of this system.

    Comment by Sisyphus — August 1, 2007 @ 8:21 am | Reply

  5. The Spartans faced down the Persian slave-machine, and the Americans do the same with the Islamist one.

    You do know that the 300 Spartans and those several thousand helots and other greeks acompanying them at Thermopylae were killed to the last man? And that the “gay, pedophilic” athenians had to save the day and democracy after that?

    PS: Even the Spartans weren´t able to stop Alexander. What about him?

    A Greece ruled by such a Sparta would undoubtedly relish the chance to teach the unspeakably evil nation of Persia yet another lesson in the fighting merit of free men over that of slaves.

    Except that the same greece would only act when the trouble´s at the border. Which is not the case. Hardly any terrorism in Turkey after all.

    Sparta had an excellent system, Happy Clam. It lasted for well over 8 centuries, and they kept themselves and their fellow Greeks free. We would be well-advised to adopt much, if not all, of this system.

    Including that little eugenics program happy clam just introduced here?
    And the slavery?

    Comment by PG — August 1, 2007 @ 8:52 am | Reply

  6. PG – I think that us liberal moonbats had this argument last time – we kinda demonstrated how the SPARTAAAAAAN! society was racist, barbaric, pederastic, and eugenicist. Sisyphus just told us that we were wrong, and all of our sources were fabrications by the evil LIEberal DEMONcrat moonbat treefrog lesbian sodomite cabals that conspire to slander good, right thinking Americans/SPAARTAAAAANS!

    Anyway, memes away captain.

    Comment by interpreted — August 1, 2007 @ 9:04 am | Reply

  7. I will first have my husband view the film first to ensure that it is appropriate for the female viewer. From what I have heard there is an exorbitant amount of footage with partially-naked men and that is not something I feel is fitting for a decent Christian lady to be subjected to. Have you allowed your own wife to see this film? I resepct your position completely and would appreciate your direction.

    I watched it (as a nurse, I’m able to look at half-naked individuals quite clinically), and was quite impressed with it. The resolve of these soldiers was quite remarkable, as was their commitment to protecting their homes, their families and their country. I had a couple of technical quibbles with the film, which I won’t voice here, as they contain spoilers, but overall, it was very entertaining. I wouldn’t worry too much about the scantiness of their dress, Mrs. T-D. God gave us our bodies, so to see the physique of someone who honors God’s gift by treating their body well with nutrition and exercise is not necessarily lewd in nature, any more than Michaelangelo’s David is lewd.

    Comment by Lyssie — August 1, 2007 @ 9:29 am | Reply

  8. Dear Lyssie,

    You know that I consider you a fine, upstanding, moral woman of God and friend, so please understand that I am not questioning your beliefs. However, I personally feel that aside from the instance in Passion of the Christ, where our Lord was undressed from the waist up, there is no need for the constant exposure of flesh that the film industry continues to exploit. As a nurse, I am certain you have performed your duties clinically and within the bounds that a decent lady is expected, for that, I admire you.

    Fortunately, I was not cursed with carnal desires so viewing such a film would certainly not inflict any impure thoughts onto me. However, there are young ladies in our society who are not trained medical professionals or simply chaste such as myself, those are the ones whom I fear are put at risk by the desensitization of flesh.

    I pray that you do not find my reply to you to be argumentative or in anyway seen as undermining your faith or purity for that is not my intention.

    As always I thank the Lord that there are fine, gentile young people women as yourself setting the kind of moral example that so sorely lacks in today’s society.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — August 1, 2007 @ 9:42 am | Reply

  9. “I find myself wishing that Sparta’s traditions had survived from antiquity.”

    Bw lucky they haven’t, because they surely would have tossed you off the cliff for not being up to their standards. And even if they’d let you live, you’d actually have to FIGHT for once and not just flap your pudgy jaws.

    Comment by Brandon Explosion — August 1, 2007 @ 9:50 am | Reply

  10. Not in the least! I do agree with you that overall, there is too much nudity (and too much violence) in today’s films. When you look back at some of the greatest films ever made, there was no need for nudity and violence — the dialogue, the storytelling, and the phenomenal acting was all that was needed. It just seems that many of today’s filmmakers have gotten lazy, and have forgotten that anticipation and tension are much more cinematically gripping than having everything shown to us in minute detail.

    And please do not ever be shy to argue with me. I enjoy having my opinions and statements challenged (and no, gentle readers, that is not license to badger me mercilessly about my every utterance, sorry.) 🙂

    Comment by Lyssie — August 1, 2007 @ 9:51 am | Reply

  11. “That is an excellent point, Mrs. Gaines-Crockett. It goes without saying that women should not be exposed to the male forms depicted in this film.”

    There’s also a fair amount of female nudity in the film, which I’m sure your husband will enjoy watching.

    “Fortunately, I was not cursed with carnal desires…”

    Best news I’ve heard all day.

    Comment by Brandon Explosion — August 1, 2007 @ 9:54 am | Reply

  12. “I find myself wishing that Sparta’s traditions had survived from antiquity.”

    Yes, they did have enough sense to keep gays out of their military. There was none of this Clinton nonsense about getting a scholarship or Kerry’s about riding around in a boat. In Sparta you fought like a straight man shoulder to shoulder with other straight men.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — August 1, 2007 @ 10:06 am | Reply

  13. If there’s one thing BJ loves, it’s man-on-man action.

    Comment by Brandon Explosion — August 1, 2007 @ 11:14 am | Reply

  14. “Yes, they did have enough sense to keep gays out of their military.”

    they didn’t keep gays out of anything. They didn’t even have “gays” to speak of, as man-on-man action was expected of all.

    Oh, and the Ahenians beat the Persians. The Persians beat the Spartans.

    Comment by Salmo — August 1, 2007 @ 11:36 am | Reply

  15. All I can say is that much of this stuff said by Sisyphus and Psycheout is blasphemy; nay, madness even.

    Comment by interpreted — August 1, 2007 @ 12:02 pm | Reply

  16. “Oh, and the Ahenians beat the Persians. The Persians beat the Spartans. Comment by Salmo — August 1, 2007 @ 11:36 am ”

    Why do you hate Sparta?

    Why do you hate America?

    Why do you hate your mother? was it the forced sex?

    Comment by Happy Clam — August 1, 2007 @ 12:11 pm | Reply

  17. I dislike Sparta because of their –

    -looting
    -eugenics
    -slavery
    -fascism
    -pederasty

    Comment by interpreted — August 1, 2007 @ 12:32 pm | Reply

  18. Liberal moonbats love the Athenians because the invented the two things the liberals love the most; lying politicians and tax and spend budgets. Themistocles was the worlds first lying politician, saying anything to anybody to get his way. He invented tax and spend fiscal policy when he fast talked the Athenians into building a fleet, needless to say the ship building lobby got that bit of pork along with all the poor Athenians who got plushy jobs sucking off the government tit as galley rowers. The only reason Themistocles won the battle of Salamis was he lied to the Persians that the Athenian fleet was about to surrender so he could lure the Persian fleet into an ambush.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — August 1, 2007 @ 1:55 pm | Reply

  19. And with that they still fared better than the Spartans. Off course you have some credible sources for your little version, BJ. Or have you not?

    Comment by PG — August 1, 2007 @ 2:06 pm | Reply

  20. “And with that they still fared better than the Spartans.”

    Having Attica and Athens burnt to the ground is better than Sparta which was untouched by the war?

    Is it necessary to cite sources for Themistocles being a liar? The man bragged about it.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — August 1, 2007 @ 2:30 pm | Reply

  21. ‘Sparta shall burn to the ground!’

    I don’t love Athens. For a start, it’s attempt at democracy was pathetic. But still BJ, you haven’t made clear whether you approve of the Spartans’

    -looting
    -eugenics
    -slavery
    -fascism
    -pederasty

    Comment by interpreted — August 1, 2007 @ 2:39 pm | Reply

  22. Who cares who like Sparta anyway. They’re all dead and not coming back.

    Comment by Brandon Explosion — August 1, 2007 @ 2:43 pm | Reply

  23. Having Attica and Athens burnt to the ground is better than Sparta which was untouched by the war?

    Having actually won a battle on their one while the Spartans got slaughtered for sure is…

    Comment by PG — August 1, 2007 @ 2:47 pm | Reply

  24. You DO realize that the founding fathers created America to escape pretty much everything that the Spartans stood for. Sisyphus, BJ and Happy Clam are the biggest re-constructionists and the least American people I have ever seen. You actively seek to destroy everthing that made, and continues to make, America what it is.

    Comment by Adam Nelson — August 1, 2007 @ 3:04 pm | Reply

  25. I’m a little bit confused. A friend of mine insists that your website can only be a parody. Is it?

    It seems nonsensical for you to be anti-choice and yet adulate a society that left less-than-perfect infants to die on a hill side after birth. This wasn’t termination of a non-viable embryo; it was the cold-blooded murder of an infant by starvation or consumption by wild animals). How can you be so critical of non-Christian modern nations and yet aspire to a standard set by such a “heathen” society? The Spartans were legendary for their brutality both within their society and with outsiders. Is that really the comparison you wanted to draw?

    I just find the inconsistency confusing. Please clarify.

    Comment by Audrey — August 1, 2007 @ 3:13 pm | Reply

  26. Audrey, look up Doublethink.

    Comment by Adam Nelson — August 1, 2007 @ 3:18 pm | Reply

  27. “You DO realize that the founding fathers created America to escape pretty much everything that the Spartans stood for…”

    and that’s why only people of property could vote…Hmmm Mr. Half-Nelson?

    and why we could own slaves, just like the Spartans?

    and that’s why we outspend all other countries in the world on war, war machines and warriors? Because we are not Sparta?

    get real….

    Comment by Happy Clam — August 1, 2007 @ 3:25 pm | Reply

  28. Adam,

    Thank you, that helps. I see why I was confused. I suffer from acute reason and sanity. Double think is unsustainable within my mental structures.

    ac

    Comment by Audrey — August 1, 2007 @ 3:30 pm | Reply

  29. I just find the inconsistency confusing. Please clarify.

    I don’t think it’s all that inconsistent. It is perfectly reasonable to admire certain aspects of a society, while still acknowledging that the society had some serious flaws. No society is perfect — not our own, not Sparta. There is much, however, to admire in both, and many lessons that can be drawn from both.

    Comment by Lyssie — August 1, 2007 @ 3:31 pm | Reply

  30. “Having actually won a battle on their one while the Spartans got slaughtered for sure is…”

    The Spartans won Plataea and that is the battle that finished off the Persians in Greece.
    If you mean “on the own” the Athenians were not fighting by themselves at Salamis. Only 50% of the Greek fleet was Athenian.

    ”It seems nonsensical for you to be anti-choice and yet adulate a society that left less-than-perfect infants to die on a hill side after birth”

    First; the Spartans didn’t abort babies, they let them be born and then exposed them. The children always had the choice to pull themselves up by their boot straps and crawl out of that canyon. Second it wasn’t the mothers choosing the murder their little babies because mommy wanted to go out party some more, it was the state to make sure limited resources weren’t squandered on losers. There is a big difference between there.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — August 1, 2007 @ 3:43 pm | Reply

  31. The babies didn’t have boot straps.
    Any more than a fetus does.

    By your logic, removing a baby from a uterus and “exposing it” is laudable. If it’s not a loser, it’ll manage on it’s own. Oh, and incidentally, it was not the state that made that decision, it was “daddy”.

    BJ, you’re being deliberately obtuse and inflammatory. It’s fine to make a comparison to, or even admire, a particular group – but not if your interpretation of that group stems solely from a movie like 300, which has taken some liberty with what we know of the Spartans.

    Comment by Audrey — August 1, 2007 @ 3:57 pm | Reply

  32. Ok, let’s put this into perspective. 300 is FICTION. It is VERY loosely based on a historic event. So unless there were giant half-man creatures at Thermopylae, I’d take 300 as it was meant to be: a summer action movie. Talk about a serious lack of a grip on reality.

    Comment by Adam Nelson — August 1, 2007 @ 4:07 pm | Reply

  33. ” Oh, and incidentally, it was not the state that made that decision, it was “daddy”.”

    No, that was the Romans were the father could murdered his children at will. The Spartan elders decided who would live or die.

    which has taken some liberty with what we know of the Spartans.”

    I see when it is something the JFK were Hollywood constructs an elaborate conservative conspiracy by playing fast and lose with the facts that is acceptable artistic license. When it is a movie like 300 that promotes proper manly virtue, fighting the good fight verse evil instead of sitting around, drinking wine and complaining about it in French like you liberals want then it becomes invalidated because of historical inaccuracies. Even if 300 is an utter fantasy is it a valid fantasy.

    Let me ask you a question Audery, did you even know who the Spartans were or even there was a battle of Thermopylae before 300 came out? I am certainly impressed by how overnight every moonbat in America became an expert on the Persian War and all that so un-PC “Dead Greek” stuff.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — August 1, 2007 @ 4:16 pm | Reply

  34. BJ,

    Well, as I went all the way to a PhD in history, I’d have to say I did. Thanks for asking.

    And the absolute rights of the father over the wife and child (extending, incidentally, to killing them) was supported until well into the modern age.

    Finally, just to clarify for you. First degree murder is defined in the US as “In most states, first-degree murder is defined as an unlawful killing that is both willful and premeditated, meaning that it was committed after planning or “lying in wait” for the victim.” So yeah, willfully walking up the hill to dump a live baby’s body would make the tradition you respect first degree murder, even by your standards.

    ac

    Comment by Audrey — August 1, 2007 @ 4:28 pm | Reply

  35. Well, if you’re questioning my credentials on Greece, I did up to A-Level Classics – the Persian WarS are definitely part of that.

    I see when it is something the JFK were Hollywood constructs an elaborate conservative conspiracy by playing fast and lose with the facts that is acceptable artistic license.

    You say what?

    When it is a movie like 300 that promotes proper manly virtue,

    Cutting the throats of your defenseless enemies – is that ‘virtue’? Virtue? THIS! IS! SPAAAAAAAAARTAAAAA!

    fighting the good fight verse evil

    Actually, as we have said many times the Spartans were not good. It’s not as Manichaean as you suggest; while the Persians weren’t great, the did do some decent stuff. I suggest that you read up on Cyrus.

    instead of sitting around, drinking wine and complaining about it in French like you liberals want

    What? Discussing problems is good, but it doesn’t have to be in French.

    then it becomes invalidated because of historical inaccuracies. Even if 300 is an utter fantasy is it a valid fantasy.

    Yes – if it was like, say LOTR. Sisyphus, however, is looking at this utter fantasy (which also, incidentally, featured a cave troll, and an awesome guy with swords for hands), with a view to making policy –

    Eternal vigilance is a heavy price to pay for the fruits of liberty, but it is one that neither the Spartans nor the Americans have flinched at for even a moment.

    It’s like Gordon Brown saying that, in order to have a good society, we should put trust in the ways of the Force, because that worked so well in Star Wars.

    Comment by interpreted — August 1, 2007 @ 4:30 pm | Reply

  36. OK – not as well qualified as Audrey, but at least I did the Cyrus cylinder in International Law.🙂

    Comment by interpreted — August 1, 2007 @ 4:31 pm | Reply

  37. Interpreted, you hit the nail on the head. These guys are irreversibly stuck in a Saturday morning cartoon, where there are the good guys who are always good fighting the evil guys that are just plain evil for no other explanations. This, unfortunately, is not how it works. There are no “good” or “bad” guys explicitly; all people do good and bad things, and good and evil are definied by the situation at hand.

    The worldview expressed on this website is just like 300, a dumbed-down stereotype. They appreciate nothing for the complexity it deserves, and instead view things as black and white. It sure as hell is easier to imagine things that way, which is why they do it. They don’t want to experience reality, where things are often more complex than they seem. It is the simpleton’s natural defense; shutting out the world.

    Comment by Adam Nelson — August 1, 2007 @ 5:15 pm | Reply

  38. I miss the last 300 post, where the B4Bs were talking about how every bad thing Sparta ever did was a slander made up by the Athenians.

    Comment by Salmo — August 1, 2007 @ 5:23 pm | Reply

  39. You’re right, Salmo. Now they’ve stopped trying to blame it on other people, but now try and convince people that it wasn’t all that bad.

    You people make fun of Hollywood so much, yet you idolize one of its less-tasteful creations. How hypocritical. You’re idolizing a MOVIE, and a pretty bad one at that.

    Comment by Adam Nelson — August 1, 2007 @ 5:26 pm | Reply

  40. “You people make fun of Hollywood so much, yet you idolize one of its less-tasteful creations. How hypocritical. You’re idolizing a MOVIE, and a pretty bad one at that.”

    Even better–virtually the entire movie was filmed in Montreal

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416449/trivia

    That’s right–not only are they idolizing a historically inaccurate movie–but they’re idolizing a historically inaccurate movie that had all of its work done by *gasp* French-Canadians…

    Comment by D.W. — August 1, 2007 @ 6:42 pm | Reply

  41. That’s right–not only are they idolizing a historically inaccurate movie–but they’re idolizing a historically inaccurate movie that had all of its work done by *gasp* French-Canadians…

    It would take a French-Canadian moonbat to bring up such a trivial detail. This sort of thinking is typical of what we like to call “the reality-based community.” You people believe that solutions emerge from a judicious study of discernible reality. That’s not the way the world works anymore.

    I wish I could find a way to make you people understand this simple fact. Until I find a way, I will say the only words I know that you’ll understand: Il n’y a pas de hors-texte.

    Comment by Rose L. Nylund — August 1, 2007 @ 8:00 pm | Reply

  42. FWIW, Sparta still exists. It is now part of an explicitly Christian nation.

    There, schoolchildren, as part of their moral and historical education, are taken on field-trips to the crevasse where ancient Spartan babies were abandoned to the elements and to packs of wild dogs. This is so that the christian children may learn the brutality that their autochthonous paganism was based on, and to inoculate them against the fascist romanticism for which their history may be exploited.

    Modern day Spartans were subject to fascist occupation within living memory, and have little tolerance for it now. Oxi!

    Comment by Xenos — August 2, 2007 @ 5:23 am | Reply

  43. It was a sucky that was deliberately historically innacurate (based off a damn comic book), so if they want to idolize it let them.

    Comment by Brandon Explosion — August 2, 2007 @ 7:24 am | Reply

  44. It was a sucky that was deliberately historically innacurate (based off a damn comic book), so if they want to idolize it let them.

    Which brings us to the other great thing about 300; how Frank Miller has come around to Jesus’ side. Previously he produced such dribble as the Dark Knight Returns, were President Bush is a puppet of Lex Luthor and Sin City were the Church is the major source of corruption in society. Now with 300 Miller has washed away his sins and got on America’s side. That is why you moonbats really hate 300, because it was made by one of your own that woke up from the liberal madness.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — August 2, 2007 @ 9:19 am | Reply

  45. Face it, BJ, the Athenians were the first in Greece to score a decisive victory against the persians. Perhaps THE decisive one, because if the Persians had won at Salamis, it´d have been over for the greek.

    First; the Spartans didn’t abort babies, they let them be born and then exposed them. The children always had the choice to pull themselves up by their boot straps and crawl out of that canyon. Second it wasn’t the mothers choosing the murder their little babies because mommy wanted to go out party some more, it was the state to make sure limited resources weren’t squandered on losers. There is a big difference between there.

    Yeah, abortion is a personal choice. What the Spartans did was an eugenic program/organised mass murder much like the murder of “undesired” life in many dictatorships in history.

    Oh, and Frank Miller has drawn 300 when? 1998. WHen did he finish the till now last volume of Sin City? 1999. Seems like he´s back on the dark side.🙂

    Comment by PG — August 2, 2007 @ 1:08 pm | Reply

  46. Yeah, abortion is a personal choice. What the Spartans did was an eugenic program/organised mass murder much like the murder of “undesired” life in many dictatorships in history.

    Sparta wasn’t a dictatorship PG. They had two kings and a council of elders who could veto the king. Leonidas succeeded his brother who was deposed for being too uppity.

    Seems like he´s back on the dark side.

    Spin all you want PG but Jesus has rescued another soul from Satan.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — August 2, 2007 @ 1:34 pm | Reply

  47. Sparta wasn’t a dictatorship PG. They had two kings and a council of elders who could veto the king. Leonidas succeeded his brother who was deposed for being too uppity.

    You see that little word reading “like”? They acted like many dictatorships.

    Spin all you want PG but Jesus has rescued another soul from Satan.

    Hey, just look it up your self. 300 published in 1998. “Hell and Back (A Sin City Love Story)”, the latest issue of Sin City published in 1999. And since then he seems to draw Batman cartoons.

    Comment by PG — August 2, 2007 @ 2:36 pm | Reply

  48. “And since then he seems to draw Batman cartoons.”

    Yes, that’s right: like the forthcoming Holy Terror, Batman!, where Batman defends Gotham City against Al-Queda.

    Miller may have produced a lot of trash in the past, but obviously 9-11 was a wakeup call for him (along with Dennis Miller and every other sane American, which excludes all of you leftwingers). Unlike you whackjobs, Miller actually understands that terrorists are our enemies, and that the only thing they understand is a smash in the mouth.

    [Ed Note: Your link was broken, so I added one for you. Comment again if you had another one in mind.]

    Comment by JT Stuart — August 2, 2007 @ 5:45 pm | Reply

  49. So, to you, liberals are inherently insane? Nice ad hominem, Mr. Stuart.

    Comment by AutoFire — August 2, 2007 @ 6:33 pm | Reply

  50. I think that’s an excellent point, Mr. Stuart.

    Comment by Sisyphus — August 2, 2007 @ 6:37 pm | Reply

  51. Clearly your reading comprehension needs work, AutoFire. I didn’t say “all liberals are insane.” I said leftwingers who weren’t woken up from their kumbaya fairytale world by 911 are insane.

    Some former liberals, like Frank Miller and Dennis Miller, understood the significance of 911. Many, many others (yourself included, I’m assuming, based on your dishonest reading of my comment) didn’t. I fear for the future of our country if one of your appeaser Manchurian candidates is elected President.

    Comment by JT Stuart — August 2, 2007 @ 6:42 pm | Reply

  52. PS thanks to whichever editor fixed my link. It’s hard to see what you’re doing here with no preview function.

    [Ed Note: That’s what I’m here for! It would be nice if WordPress came with a comment feature. Hopefully one will be added in the future.]

    Comment by JT Stuart — August 2, 2007 @ 6:44 pm | Reply

  53. I understand the significance of 9/11. I know that these terrorists want us destroyed, no questions asked. I may have misunderstood your original post, but you then used that misunderstanding to leap to your own conclusion about me.

    Comment by AutoFire — August 2, 2007 @ 6:48 pm | Reply

  54. My apologies if I misread you, then, but your post certainly seemed like a typical slam from the “Reality Based Community.” If you actually are one of the rare liberals who support the War on Terror, kudos. We need a lot more of you.

    Comment by JT Stuart — August 2, 2007 @ 6:57 pm | Reply

  55. I’m aware that this is a little late in the argument, but I just started reading and wanted to say something about Sparta:
    Did you know that they were very primitive relative to Greek society of the time? Most of their buildings were modeled off of buildings typically found in the Dark Ages of Greece. Since most of their laws were passed down orally or committed to memory (a system which rarely works, by the way), not much is known about their legal or fiscal system. However, Sparta is widely regarded as the first National Socialist state. The reason that Sparta lasted so long was because it was entirely focused on military prowess and not education and because it was strategically located. The city of Sparta was surrounded on three sides by mountains, and was difficult to blockade because it was so close to the sea. In addition, the Greco-Persian War was fought by many more armies than Sparta. It was a pan-Greek army, after all. Soon Sparta became full of itself and set out for total domination of the Balkan Peninsula, going to war with everyone and commiting mass genocide, even toppling the Delian League, one of the most esteemed association of Greek city-states of the 5th century BCE.
    In my opinion, the last thing the U.S. needs is to become a fascist, socialist, imperialist state whose core values are military expansionism and genocide. That’s just me, though.

    Comment by neutronnate — August 17, 2007 @ 2:37 am | Reply


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