Blogs 4 Brownback

July 23, 2007

Mitt Romney Is No Boy Scout

Filed under: Election 2008,Mitt Romney,Sam Brownback — Psycheout @ 2:44 pm

According to CBN News, the Brownback campaign will issue a press release today titled Romney Hostile to Boy Scout Leadership and Principles: Supports Gay Scout Leaders, was Cold to Scout Participation in Olympics.

Here’s an excerpt that shows when it comes to homosexuality, Mitt Romney is no boy scout:

In his 1994 Senate race in Massachusetts and later as CEO of the Salt Lake City Olympic Committee, Mitt Romney opposed Boy Scout officials who wished to prevent gay men from becoming troop leaders and was hostile to Scout participation in the 2002 Olympics.

In a 1994 debate with Ted Kennedy, Mitt Romney offered his support for gay scout leaders:

“I feel that all people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.”

Great, Mittens. What’s next? Support for NAMBLA?

More on this shortly. B4B is trying to get confirmation on this story.

Update: Confirmed. Bonus: Brownback Campaign Announces Homeschool Coalition. Gay scouts vs homeschooling. You decide.

Update 2: Romney in his own words.

— Psycheout

14 Comments »

  1. Homeschool Coalition? Is that Southern for CCCP?

    Comment by Adam Nelson — July 23, 2007 @ 3:42 pm | Reply

  2. Gays should be allowed to be scout leaders. There’s no logical reason why they shouldn’t.

    Comment by Salmo — July 23, 2007 @ 3:59 pm | Reply

  3. Exactly. Just because you’re gay doesn’t mean you’re totally out of control of your sexual urges. Besides, by your logic, straight boy-scout leaders shouldn’t be near little girls, as they would inevitably rape them. To say that gays are any more sex-hungry than heterosexuals is just false, and I’d like to see ANY study suggesting your claim.

    Comment by Adam Nelson — July 23, 2007 @ 4:01 pm | Reply

  4. Is Brownback having trouble with his campaign? This was the exact tactic McCain used before his huge tumble…(Is Brownback running out of money?)

    I see no problem with Romney’s quote. I’m religious and right and agree with Romney. The boy scouts have the right to choose their policy. I also agree with Romney that someone should NOT be discriminated against based on their sexual orientation. Last but not least, I as a parent can decide if I agree with the policy of the boy scouts. If not then I don’t send my son to participate.

    I also agree with Romney, that marriage is for a man and a woman. The difference is very clear to me. All men are created equal and have their rights to freedom. However, marriage is a structure that has existed since recorded civilization. We know the structure works (it has stood the test of time) It is the best model for raising children.

    Comment by Religious and Right — July 24, 2007 @ 12:09 am | Reply

  5. Badin Powell, the man who founded the boy scout movement was himself gay, next time do your homework before vomiting up your garbage.

    Comment by Skeptic — July 24, 2007 @ 9:27 am | Reply

  6. Sorry, Skeptic, but Robert Baden-Powell was not gay. He was happily married and had three children. Every Scout in England donated a penny for a wedding gift, which wound up being a car. His wife and sister were the leaders of the Girl Scout movement.

    Comment by Salmo — July 24, 2007 @ 1:00 pm | Reply

  7. “However, marriage is a structure that has existed since recorded civilization. We know the structure works (it has stood the test of time)”

    No it hasn’t. Marriage today is a very very different institution than marriage a thousand or a hundred or even fifty years ago.

    Comment by Salmo — July 24, 2007 @ 1:01 pm | Reply

  8. “No it hasn’t. Marriage today is a very very different institution than marriage a thousand or a hundred or even fifty years ago.”

    True. But marriage was originally a method of social order, a by-product of our monogamous nature. It predated the Church (or any other religion) by many, many years.

    Comment by Adam Nelson — July 24, 2007 @ 6:52 pm | Reply

  9. “Sorry, Skeptic, but Robert Baden-Powell was not gay. He was happily married and had three children. Every Scout in England donated a penny for a wedding gift, which wound up being a car. His wife and sister were the leaders of the Girl Scout movement.”

    He married when he was in his 50’s, before that he had a homosexual relationship with one of his officers, just read his diaries about “the perfect bodies of handsome young men.”

    Comment by Skeptic — July 25, 2007 @ 8:46 am | Reply

  10. Being married in one’s fifties was not remarkable back then, and if you can’t cite any evidence for this, don’t bother trying.

    Comment by Salmo — July 25, 2007 @ 1:18 pm | Reply

  11. Ah hem. From the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Baden-Powell#Family_life

    “In January 1912, Baden-Powell met the woman who would be his future wife, Olave St Clair Soames on the ocean liner Arcadian heading for New York to start one of his Scouting World Tours.[20][21] She was a young woman of 23, while he was 55, a not uncommon age difference in that time, and they shared the same birthday.”

    There’s also a separate section on Robert Baden-Powell’s sexual orientation.

    “Robert Baden-Powell’s sexual orientation has been brought into question by some modern authors.[7][38] Even though Baden-Powell married and had three children, circumstantial evidence suggests he may have taken an erotic interest in men. The possibility of a non-heterosexual Baden-Powell has been controversial given his iconic status in Scouting.”

    If you want to check out the sources Wikipedia has listed, be my guest.

    Comment by Brandon Explosion — July 25, 2007 @ 11:51 pm | Reply

  12. Okay, there you go. Not uncommon. As for the other section, did you even read it? There’s absolutely no evidence to support that, other than some modern interpreters want it that way. It’s just like gay Shakespeare, or black Beethoven.

    Comment by Salmo — July 26, 2007 @ 9:15 am | Reply

  13. It lists a couple biographical books as sources. I said if you want to check out the sources, be my guest. Without reading them we’ll never know I guess.

    Comment by Brandon Explosion — July 26, 2007 @ 9:28 am | Reply

  14. Even after you read the sources, you won’t know..because it is all speculation. I’d say the burden of proof is on the people who say he’s gay, for obvious reasons.

    Sometimes homophobes are gay, but it really isn’t responsible to assume they all are. The vast majority aren’t.

    Comment by Rico — October 27, 2007 @ 4:45 pm | Reply


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