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June 29, 2007

Open Thread

Filed under: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys,Open Thread — Sisyphus @ 3:32 pm

Should French be taught in our nation’s schools? I, for one, can find little reason to do so. Americans should learn more English and less of this useless Old European language. But that’s just me, anyway. What do you think?

106 Comments »

  1. I see little reason that French should be taught as a core subject. As an optional elective, sure, why not? There’s no real reason to teach French as a required credit, however.

    Comment by adamnelson — June 29, 2007 @ 3:52 pm | Reply

  2. Wait a sec… why would you even care what is taught in the public school system? I thought pure-hearted Conservatives and Christians all homeschooled their children to escape the virulent plague that is Darwinism and Geocentricism.

    Comment by adamnelson — June 29, 2007 @ 3:53 pm | Reply

  3. “I see little reason that French should be taught as a core subject. As an optional elective, sure, why not? There’s no real reason to teach French as a required credit, however.”

    That’s where they learn about the horrid French culture, including things like French kissing. I think Americans would be better off without it.

    “Wait a sec… why would you even care what is taught in the public school system? I thought pure-hearted Conservatives and Christians all homeschooled their children to escape the virulent plague that is Darwinism and Geocentricism.”

    If MY tax dollars are paying for it, I should have some say in it.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 29, 2007 @ 4:00 pm | Reply

  4. French kissing in French class, eh? Uh-huh… I missed some pretty good French classes!

    Also, why would you resist learning anything? That’s why they taught us about the Holocaust in school. Sure, it was horrifying, but it deserved to be taught. Human beings are the only things capable of learning on this earth, so why deny ourselves the use of this miraculous gift?

    Comment by adamnelson — June 29, 2007 @ 4:11 pm | Reply

  5. I think we should only use new European languages, like Esperanto.

    You’re pretty funny, though. Don’t worry, I caught the joke… So which European language is older, French or English? I’m not qualified to comment on that; someone must be.

    They’re both Latin-based; that much I know.

    Heck, maybe we should all be speaking Mandarin or Japanese. Are those languages newer or older than French? I bet Japanese is the most-recently developed of these languages. Sounds like good criteria to me.

    Comment by MikeM — June 29, 2007 @ 4:11 pm | Reply

  6. The correct answer is no. Except for Michael Moore types who are in the process of being deported to France.

    Comment by Psycheout — June 29, 2007 @ 4:22 pm | Reply

  7. Not as an required credit, but surely as an optional subject. Never hurts to understand what people are saying. Especially when their country is one of the G8. And a leading member of the EU. And a nuclear power.

    “That’s where they learn about the horrid French culture, including things like French kissing. I think Americans would be better off without it.”

    So knowing about it means doing it? Are you really that weak?

    Comment by PG — June 29, 2007 @ 4:23 pm | Reply

  8. Mandarin and Cantonese are very ancient dialects, as the Chinese are by far the oldest culture.

    Also, French is a great deal older than English, as English only arose as a peasant dialect in the early 900s or so (I’ve heard 900s and I’ve heard 1100s, but Beowulf is in ancient English and it’s from the first time about). And yeah, Esperanto has kinda flopped.

    Comment by adamnelson — June 29, 2007 @ 4:26 pm | Reply

  9. @sisi: Remember our little debate about the USA surviving or not surviving a nuclear war with Russia? Seems like my infos were a bit outdated. The russians have “just” 7200 missiles in operational (read: ready 24 hours a day) shape and another 12000 in the depots.
    But seeing that they have already a working ABM system around Moscow and a stockpile of new missiles (like the Topol-M9 that are basically designed to make any ABM system useless, they´d still smoke the USA.
    (Especially as those 72000 missiles are enough to smoke the USA about 20 times. Even if you intercept 95%, you´re still royally screwed.)

    Comment by PG — June 29, 2007 @ 4:27 pm | Reply

  10. Americans make up less than 5% of the world’s population, Sisyphus – there are people out there who (gasp!) don’t speak a word of English.

    Comment by interpreted — June 29, 2007 @ 4:55 pm | Reply

  11. Hopefully that will change, interpreted, as we spread liberty, freedom and English throughout the world.

    Comment by Psycheout — June 29, 2007 @ 5:47 pm | Reply

  12. “Hopefully that will change, interpreted, as we spread liberty, freedom and English throughout the world.”

    But as you never, ever attack a nuclear power, this hope has the chance of survival of a snowball in hell.

    PS: SPreading liberty and freedom might be a nice idea, but make sure that the people actually want you doing it. Otherwise it´d be no surprise if someone starts building IED´s…

    Comment by PG — June 29, 2007 @ 6:22 pm | Reply

  13. When I sent my daughter to a private Christian school in Great Britain, they were made well aware that under no uncertain terms, was she to be taught a foreign language. So far it hasn’t been a problem as nearly all of girls attending the schools are from good Christian American families. It is a crying shame that I have to send my child across the world to get an education free of LIEberal teachings and propganda.

    Under no circumstances should French be taught to American children. Any parent that condones such a thing should be tried for treason.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 29, 2007 @ 6:44 pm | Reply

  14. OH Sissy-Puss

    why did he say this?

    WASHINGTON — Sam Brownback says he harbored a “hatred” of Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton until he experienced a religious awakening in the mid-1990s.

    does that mean he does not hate them any more? please please say that its not true.

    Comment by Happy Clam — June 29, 2007 @ 8:56 pm | Reply

  15. “But as you never, ever attack a nuclear power”

    I don’t think the French actually have such weapons.

    We should attack them just to find out….

    Comment by Happy Clam — June 29, 2007 @ 9:03 pm | Reply

  16. Yes my Clam friend, go poke them with a nuke…I’d like to watch from a distance if you don’t mind. If you understood anything concerning the matter you would know that attacking a country at random has severe reprecussions.

    “Under no circumstances should French be taught to American children. Any parent that condones such a thing should be tried for treason.”

    Why? What’s wrong with the French language? It’s actually quite pretty to listen to at times. What does it matter if one group of people call what you know to be a “cat” in English by another sound made by human vocal cords? Do you still think that the Bible was originally in English? Is that lie why you find English as superior? Did you know that Chinese is actually the most spoken?

    Basically, in my state you must have two foreign language credits to graduate high school. They can be in any language offered. In general that is Spanish, French, German, or Latin…sometimes Chinese. I am in Spanish, and will take four years [credits] worth. With that I can connect with people that I never could before. The same is true for someone taking French. They can now connect with so many more people. They have so many more options. Their world isn’t as closed. Make sense? Requiring a foreign language (be it French, German, Spanish….) is a blessing on so many levels.

    Comment by La Mona — June 29, 2007 @ 10:11 pm | Reply

  17. You liberal lossers make me sick!! Everybody should learn to speak American! French?11! Who gives a rats’ potootie what those surrender monkies speak! If it wasn’t for W and Cheney wed’ all be speaking ISLAM right know!

    Comment by F.M. Asshat — June 30, 2007 @ 1:05 am | Reply

  18. pedicabo et irrumabo te.

    Comment by Pinko Punko — June 30, 2007 @ 1:19 am | Reply

  19. “Under no circumstances should French be taught to American children. Any parent that condones such a thing should be tried for treason.”

    If you want your child to become somehting like a police officer or perhaps working for an intelligence agency, he´d be glad to know french. It´s quite a good remark to get such highly paid jobs. In the end, any language is just a tool. Tools can never be “good” or “evil”. Only the people using them.

    I don’t think the French actually have such weapons.
    We should attack them just to find out….

    They do have. They´re on the official list. And of course, attacking them means declaring war on the entire european continent including the UK, which certainly have the nuke.

    Comment by PG — June 30, 2007 @ 4:34 am | Reply

  20. La Mona, or shall I call you by your real name “Lamona”?

    I finally figured out what kind of person you really are when I accidentally typed your name minus the space between the “A” and “M”. You can pretend to be high-falutin all day long with your fancy talk and quasi-educated remarks, but in reality, you are probably nothing but a welfare parasite with a spell-checker. Where you people come up with those names…Laquitia, Lavonda, Laverna, and Lamona is beyond me. I suppose when you have nothing better to than sit around all day, on the taxpayer’s dollar, you have the free time to make up ridiculous names for your bastard babies. What little credibility you had has been shot out the window.

    PG,

    In America, we speak American. It does not get any simpler than that. The Africans eventually learned the American language, albeit they have destroyed any proper use of it with Ebonics. The Mexicans, Cubans, and Orientals WILL learn it once Sam Brownback is elected, and if becomes the Official Language. In addition, your friends, the French, can learn it too, if they ever want to visit our beautiful country and order a good meal or hail a cab.

    I am sick of you people trying to force your Liberal agenda on decent citizens. If you like the French so much, then get on a plane and go live over there. You would fit in just fine because sodomy, sin, and Liberal thinking is the “norm”.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 30, 2007 @ 6:28 am | Reply

  21. Crockett,

    La Mona is “The Monkey” in Spanish. I have this unique ability to bend myslef into odd shapes. (I’m double-jointed in many places.) Also, due to other factors I’m a hyper person. And I like to climb things. So, my Spanish teacher, and classmate (online course–only one other person at school with me) call me La Mona. It’s a nickname. One of many I have. I am a high school student. It’s the middle of summer. I have just a wee bit of free time as I’m only taking one course right now. Oh, and I like to argue politics…usually it makes the government look stupid, but in this case….I’m almost impressed with the government. It’s not “fancy talk.” Even you should acknowledge the English language. Oh, and I have NO kids. And don’t plan on it either. And you have done nothing to my credibility. Once again you have sunk to name calling, assumption, and other levels of ignorance. Try again please. Because anyone looking on that isn’t blinded by your sick ignorant bias is laughing at you. You have been schooled (beaten/out-done if you need another word for it) by a high school student. How does that make you feel?

    *This site doesn’t have a spell-checker either. I’m a big kid. I can do it all by myself. That goes with a subject in school called “Spelling” and “English.” *gasp*

    Comment by La Mona — June 30, 2007 @ 7:55 am | Reply

  22. Lamona,

    Seeing as most of you people look and act like monkeys, I’d say your Spanish teacher hit the nail on the head. As for your “talent” of bending yourself into strange postions, no one here wants to hear about your bizzare sexual escapades. This is a family-friendly, Christian forum so you can just keep that smut-talk for your LIEberal friends and family.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 30, 2007 @ 8:03 am | Reply

  23. Ne pas, vraiment! Heisted parlor.

    Comment by Anna Graham — June 30, 2007 @ 8:15 am | Reply

  24. The only language the world needs to speak is American. English will do in a pinch, but it has some very distinct differences that make it almost unintelligible. The rest of the world needs to learn some form of English/American. The former British Empire is well over 1 billion people; combine that with America, and we just have to get the laggards in China, Russia, and Europe on board. The little countries will soon fall in line.

    If our children need to learn any other languages, they should be Latin, Ancient Greek, and Hebrew, for Scriptural studies. With any luck, in a generation or so those other languages like French, Russian, German, Chinese, and Japanese will be as dead as Latin or Etruscan. That will be a blessed day indeed.

    Once the rest of the world speaks the American language, they’ll be that much quicker to embrace American principles like freedom and Christianity.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 30, 2007 @ 8:22 am | Reply

  25. I’m sorry that you have your head shoved so deep in the gutter that that was the first thing you thought of. I’m flexible…not immoral. I don’t look like a monkey. And I chose the nickname. Oh, and I’m a virgin too. Never had a boyfriend at that. And as far as “family-friendly”….why all the name calling? Why are the gutter minds here (like yours and the people that accuse of other immoralities because they didn’t know what someone’s initial stood for in a screename…) That is called…ignorance…AGAIN. That’s sick. You know, they make drugs for people like you.

    And you are saying that my fingers being able to pop out of place, my ankels being able to collapse on themselves, being able to do a backbend and almost grab my ankles (thus bending into an “O”), are wrong? Tell me, is gymnastics wrong? (I don’t do gymnastics, but the basic things I do are done by them…at least the thigns that require only the flexibility.)

    Comment by La Mona — June 30, 2007 @ 8:23 am | Reply

  26. @Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett

    Could you be a bit more civil please?

    I know I’ve been a pain in the ass, but what did La Mona ever do, besides presenting good arguments in a civil manner?

    So, would you please refrain yourself from ad hominem attacks.

    Comment by Skeptic — June 30, 2007 @ 8:24 am | Reply

  27. La Mona is “The Monkey” in Spanish. I have this unique ability to bend myslef into odd shapes.”

    So, you admit that you’re a sorceress in league with Satan?

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 30, 2007 @ 8:26 am | Reply

  28. When did I ever say that? It’s called being flexible. It’s actually good for you…(to be flexible…not double-jointed, but that’s not bad either, just everyone isn’t like that, but everyone CAN be flexible.)

    And Skeptic,

    I thank you.

    Comment by La Mona — June 30, 2007 @ 8:40 am | Reply

  29. If the truth offends you, Skeptic, then I suggest that you just cover your eyes. Your unsolicited comments proves you as nothing but a skidmark on the underpants of a moral society.
    Lolita-Lamona,
    I hope and pray that when you grow up you will look back on on your offensive past behavior and lay all of the blame at the feet of your parents. Obviously you are the prodigy of a Liberal household as you demonstrate a complete lack of respect for your elders and for all that is good in this world. You, dear, are a perfect example of why children children should never be allowed unsupervised access to the internet.
    I will pray that both of you get knocked in the head with a hearty dose of common sense.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 30, 2007 @ 8:45 am | Reply

  30. “I know I’ve been a pain in the ass, but what did La Mona ever do, besides presenting good arguments in a civil manner?”

    She admitted to changing shapes at will. Who can do that, but agents of Darkness? Do you expect us to be perfectly civil to witches?

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 30, 2007 @ 8:52 am | Reply

  31. It’s La Mona. I’ve always called you Crockett without changing the spelling or whatever (your whole sn is long) but I have never used it against you. Why must you do the same to think that you have presented an argument?

    Nothing about my past behavior is offensive. My parents are not responsible for my choices either. My parents influence, but do NOT make my choices. Therefore, no blame can be theirs. I know right from wrong. I am capable to make it or break it all by myself. (You know, free will….) I am a prodigy, but not of what you speak. I respect my “elders and betters.” To the extent that I am respected in turn. You, I have no doubt, are my elder, but you are in NO way my better…ok, you can wallow in ignorance better than I. Also, my mental capacity most likely goes beyond yours, and I can interact with any age group I choose because of my knowledge and capabilities that are not represented in my physical age. And, my parents know that I’m here. My parents know everything that I do. And they trust me to do right by it. I’m a “good kid” you see. You still don’t know what Liberal is. Have you looked up Economics and Government and Politics yet? No, didn’t think so…

    Don’t get me started on common sense. You to this point remain an ignorant blind fool that wouldn’t know common sense if it hung you by your toenails. There! That’s the most hostile thing I’ve said. You see Crockett, here is the difference in the levels we play on this field…I can sink to yours at any point in time. (Name calling, ignore the issue, twist words, etc, etc) But you can NOT elevate to mine. You don’t have the capacity, and you REFUSE to educate yourself so that you may play properly.

    Ttfn.

    Comment by La Mona — June 30, 2007 @ 9:01 am | Reply

  32. “She admitted to changing shapes at will. Who can do that, but agents of Darkness? Do you expect us to be perfectly civil to witches?”

    NO I did NOT. I admitted that I am flexible. You are twisting my words.

    Comment by La Mona — June 30, 2007 @ 9:02 am | Reply

  33. “Ttfn”
    You can just keep you filthy code messages to yourself, you little Jezebel. All I can say is that it is a good thing for you that you are not my daughter. I would beat you within an inch of your sorry life if that’s what it took to get the DEMONS out of you.
    May God have mercy on you.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 30, 2007 @ 9:15 am | Reply

  34. “NO I did NOT. I admitted that I am flexible. You are twisting my words.”

    Here are your exact words:

    “La Mona is “The Monkey” in Spanish. I have this unique ability to bend myslef into odd shapes.”

    In other words, you’re a shapeshifter. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I’ll hope you weren’t confessing to lycanthropy. Witchcraft is almost as bad, but at least it’s a sin you can repent. Once you’ve become a werewolf, there’s no turning back.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 30, 2007 @ 9:43 am | Reply

  35. Between you and me, Sisyphus, if that little Jezebel were to shape-shift into a werewolf it might be the best thing to happen to her. Best to live in the woods like a wild beast than in the home of Liberal parents with little to no supervision.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 30, 2007 @ 9:53 am | Reply

  36. @La Mona

    You’re welcome,
    but you’re fighting an unwinnable battle here, remember, these people believe that the Earth is flat, surrounded by water, and electrons are morally good while protons are evil (I’m not making this up: https://blogs4brownback.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/angels-and-atoms/)

    The only thing you can do is vote for a democrat next year.

    Comment by Skeptic — June 30, 2007 @ 10:13 am | Reply

  37. “Between you and me, Sisyphus, if that little Jezebel were to shape-shift into a werewolf it might be the best thing to happen to her. Best to live in the woods like a wild beast than in the home of Liberal parents with little to no supervision.”

    True. They’re probably the ones that converted her to Wiccanism and made her a werewolf in the first place. People like that should not be allowed to retain their children.

    The only thing you can do is vote for a democrat next year.

    A vote for the Democrats is a vote for Osama Bin Laden’s candidate. Don’t forget it.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 30, 2007 @ 10:28 am | Reply

  38. Sisy, Ms. Crockett, I’m upset with you two. The fun of this blog used to be that nobody could tell if you were serious or not. Now, you’ve abandoned all subtlety and realism. Like the later seasons of Family Guy, there’s no more of the subtlety that made you great. It’s just unbelievable now.

    Comment by Salmo — June 30, 2007 @ 10:54 am | Reply

  39. The French are the vilest people on the face of the Earth. Except for witches and shapeshifters. Your parents belong in prison, Mona.

    Comment by Marcia P. — June 30, 2007 @ 10:58 am | Reply

  40. The truth is, Salmo, that I don’t care one iota what you think aout me or how I say it. I was raised in a God fearing, American home to to call a spade a spade and trash, trash. You’ve proven yourself time and time agin to be a Liberal, therefore your opinion means holds little weight.

    Marcia, If I had the opportunity I would call the Department of Family Services and have that child removed from her home. As foul as she is, she is still just a child who needs our prayers along with our rebukes. Her parents are the ones responsible for her behavior here.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 30, 2007 @ 11:09 am | Reply

  41. Actually, I’m only a liberal the way you describe it. By normal standards I’m a centrist.

    Anyway, blah blah. The glory days of this parody are over. There’s no way anyone’s going to believe you guys now. It was funny while it lasted, but all good things must end.

    Comment by Salmo — June 30, 2007 @ 11:18 am | Reply

  42. What you are, Salmo, is a sad little person, who has made it a personal mission to undermine the little good left in the world. It is the nature of the Liberal. God help you.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 30, 2007 @ 11:22 am | Reply

  43. People have been calling this site a parody for a long time now, Salmo. But I’ve been coming here for well over a month now, and from what I’ve seen it’s really just a typical patriotic American website. Why do liberals keep saying it’s a parody? I don’t understand it.

    Comment by Marcia P. — June 30, 2007 @ 11:49 am | Reply

  44. Eh, bien sur, on peut penser que vous êtes parodiques? Selon moi? Je ne suis pas plutot assuré. Ils pensent ces idées car ils ne peuvent pas croire qu’il y a tels comme vous, mais, vraiment, si vous êtes les satires, vous ne donnent pas si beaucoup de temps.

    Comment by interpreted — June 30, 2007 @ 12:05 pm | Reply

  45. I’ll tell you why, Marcia, because anything that doesn’t suit their distorted agenda to have a Godless, pagan nation they want to discredit and undermine. Just ignore the trolls.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 30, 2007 @ 12:17 pm | Reply

  46. “You liberal lossers make me sick!! Everybody should learn to speak American! French?11! Who gives a rats’ potootie what those surrender monkies speak! If it wasn’t for W and Cheney wed’ all be speaking ISLAM right know!”

    There is no language called Islam. And the islamists were never any real threat. Or how are they supposed to invade the USA? WHile the whole Navy is sleeping I guess…

    “In America, we speak American. It does not get any simpler than that. The Africans eventually learned the American language, albeit they have destroyed any proper use of it with Ebonics. The Mexicans, Cubans, and Orientals WILL learn it once Sam Brownback is elected, and if becomes the Official Language. In addition, your friends, the French, can learn it too, if they ever want to visit our beautiful country and order a good meal or hail a cab.

    I am sick of you people trying to force your Liberal agenda on decent citizens. If you like the French so much, then get on a plane and go live over there. You would fit in just fine because sodomy, sin, and Liberal thinking is the “norm”.”

    I´m not forcing anything. I said it should be an OPTIONAL subject.
    And as I said, for someone working international, it might come in handy. You always score points in a business meeting when you can speak their language.
    PS: You´re speaking english. There´s no language called “american”.

    “The only language the world needs to speak is American. English will do in a pinch, but it has some very distinct differences that make it almost unintelligible. The rest of the world needs to learn some form of English/American. The former British Empire is well over 1 billion people; combine that with America, and we just have to get the laggards in China, Russia, and Europe on board. The little countries will soon fall in line.”

    Soon as in “when hell freezes over”? Yeah, that´s quite right. Those little countries could kick your puny asses to kingdom come if they wanted to.

    “If our children need to learn any other languages, they should be Latin, Ancient Greek, and Hebrew, for Scriptural studies. With any luck, in a generation or so those other languages like French, Russian, German, Chinese, and Japanese will be as dead as Latin or Etruscan. That will be a blessed day indeed.”

    No luck there. German will be a living language even in the next millenium, that much I can guarantee, seeing the nature of humanity.

    “If the truth offends you, Skeptic, then I suggest that you just cover your eyes. Your unsolicited comments proves you as nothing but a skidmark on the underpants of a moral society.”

    Which “truth”? All I can see here is a petty try to attack Mona by making stupid guesses and ad hominem attacks. Actually, the only truth here seems to be that you, mam, are unable to take part in any civil debate without turning it into an all-out flame war. Shame on you.

    “In other words, you’re a shapeshifter. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I’ll hope you weren’t confessing to lycanthropy. Witchcraft is almost as bad, but at least it’s a sin you can repent. Once you’ve become a werewolf, there’s no turning back.”

    In other words, she can bend in some difficult ahspes like someone doing gymnastics. I highly doubt that this would change her appearance. (Well, that and the fact that witchcraft is about as real as the Disney cartoons.)

    “A vote for the Democrats is a vote for Osama Bin Laden’s candidate. Don’t forget it.”

    Osama doesn´t have a candidate. He hates them all.

    It is by the way very astonishing how you always escape a civil debate by using petty tactics such as changing subjects, word twisting and ad hominem attacks. Afraid that you could lose on leveled ground?

    Comment by PG — June 30, 2007 @ 1:18 pm | Reply

  47. ‘“You liberal lossers make me sick!! Everybody should learn to speak American! French?11! Who gives a rats’ potootie what those surrender monkies speak! If it wasn’t for W and Cheney wed’ all be speaking ISLAM right know!”

    There is no language called Islam. And the islamists were never any real threat. Or how are they supposed to invade the USA? WHile the whole Navy is sleeping I guess…’

    Psst, PG, anyone calling themselves ‘asshat’ and giving their website as 3 Bulls just might be a parodist.

    Comment by interpreted — June 30, 2007 @ 1:41 pm | Reply

  48. “So, you (La Mona) admit that you’re a sorceress in league with Satan?”

    Lemme check the list of sorcerers: L-A dash M-O-N-A…

    …no, she not one of us.

    Muhahaha!

    Comment by Satan — June 30, 2007 @ 3:53 pm | Reply

  49. Oh I’m real allright and you’re worse nightemare!! I just use 3bulls because it makes the lieberalaces there so so mad! Bwah hah ha!

    OK, Islam isn’t a language but so what thats not the point! We’d all be speaking Muslim then are you happy now??!

    Comment by F.M. Asshat — June 30, 2007 @ 4:49 pm | Reply

  50. I like how these people think that they will eventually conquer the world and the little countries will “fall in line”. Well here’s news for you. When the Chinese finally decide that they don’t need you, they, with their advanced and HUGE military, will come storming up your doorstep, and nobody will care to help you. Oh, and by the way, I don’t think Sam Brownback is a candidate for world domination. You must have him confused with Hitler. In fact, your whole ideology mirrors Nazism exactly… especially that Crockett witch. Whoo boy, I’d hate to run into all 350 pounds of her in the Walmart snack aisle. Of course, I could just bait her with a pack of pork rinds, but I’d sill be scared!

    Comment by adamnelson — June 30, 2007 @ 4:51 pm | Reply

  51. @adamnelson: Why the Chinese? I would (somewhat) like to see the US Armed Forces trying to land in a europe that is united against them. Would be one bloodz massacre. And no one needs to knock at the door. Just block the oil flow and the states crumble by themselves.

    I love this parodz site btw.

    Comment by PG — June 30, 2007 @ 5:06 pm | Reply

  52. ““Ttfn”
    You can just keep you filthy code messages to yourself, you little Jezebel. All I can say is that it is a good thing for you that you are not my daughter. I would beat you within an inch of your sorry life if that’s what it took to get the DEMONS out of you.
    May God have mercy on you.”

    Ttfn is “ta ta for now.” You know, like Tigger off of Winnie the Pooh? I’m sorry, was saying goodbye not polite? It seems you haven’t learned manners while I was away either… And I feel for your offspring. And you wouldn’t beat me. If I had to grow up with that, I would opt to leave. I’m not stupid. Ignorance does not make a good mother figure.

    ““La Mona is “The Monkey” in Spanish. I have this unique ability to bend myslef into odd shapes.”

    In other words, you’re a shapeshifter. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I’ll hope you weren’t confessing to lycanthropy. Witchcraft is almost as bad, but at least it’s a sin you can repent. Once you’ve become a werewolf, there’s no turning back.”

    Let me help you with this reading of the English language. I can “bend” not what you call “shift.” Have you ever seen a person do gymnastics or be a contortionist? Yoga (like the workout…not the whole “spirtual” crap some claim, so don’t twist that either.)? And you believe in “werewolves?” That’s sad….

    “Between you and me, Sisyphus, if that little Jezebel were to shape-shift into a werewolf it might be the best thing to happen to her. Best to live in the woods like a wild beast than in the home of Liberal parents with little to no supervision.”

    My parents are Republicans. And, I am supervised. Stay tuned, next I’m going to teach you government and politics–starting with the characteristics of Liberals, Conservatives, Republicans, and Democrats. Because your ignorant insults are irritating me.

    “You’re welcome,
    but you’re fighting an unwinnable battle here, remember, these people believe that the Earth is flat, surrounded by water, and electrons are morally good while protons are evil (I’m not making this up: https://blogs4brownback.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/angels-and-atoms/)”

    I know. I was hoping to discuss politics here…as that is what this is suppose to be for. But, not only do these people follow illogical misconceptions, they won’t listen when you show them the right of it all. Instead they name call and give false accusations and label it rebuttal. Oh well.

    “The French are the vilest people on the face of the Earth. Except for witches and shapeshifters. Your parents belong in prison, Mona.”

    The “French” are not the vilest people on the face of the Earth. You are attacking a stereotype. Being French has nothing to do with a person’s personality. And my parents are more than you could ever be at this rate. You don’t even know what I am…in fact, because you know nothing of government and politics, you don’t even know what you are! (refering to what party you and I are.)

    “The truth is, Salmo, that I don’t care one iota what you think aout me or how I say it. I was raised in a God fearing, American home to to call a spade a spade and trash, trash. You’ve proven yourself time and time agin to be a Liberal, therefore your opinion means holds little weight.”

    You don’t know what “liberal” is. But stay tuned, I’ll show you.

    “Marcia, If I had the opportunity I would call the Department of Family Services and have that child removed from her home. As foul as she is, she is still just a child who needs our prayers along with our rebukes. Her parents are the ones responsible for her behavior here.”

    DHR would laugh at you and hang up. Once more, you are assuming things about me. Haven’t we talked about this? Oh yea, you’re too think to listen. So, why do I try? Oh, ummm, because somewhere in there is your God-given brain, and He wants you to use it!

    “I’ll tell you why, Marcia, because anything that doesn’t suit their distorted agenda to have a Godless, pagan nation they want to discredit and undermine. Just ignore the trolls.”

    Should I define “distorted” for you as well? “Undermine?” OH, like your name-calling. I get it.

    And adamnelson. If you can find the Open Science Thread I proved them to be Nazis after Crockett labeled me a feminazi (It’s AMAZING all the things I am…) They ignored it. I think she’s taking her own advice–the ‘close your eyes if you can’t handle the truth’ one. (That being paraphrased, but it’s around here somewhere.) At least she is beginning to swallow her own medicine. Should we call that progress or do you think that’s what she’s been doing her whole life?

    Comment by La Mona — June 30, 2007 @ 6:06 pm | Reply

  53. Ok, here’s your crash course in American Government and Politics.
    Lesson 1: Politcal Parties, schools of thought, and their characteristics.

    Liberal: Political Ideology

    -Believe in affirmative action. (I don’t but they do…)
    -Rights of unions to organize. (Sure, why not?)
    -Politics of compassion/care for the weak. (Can you say welfare and social security?)
    -Reduction of the inequalities of wealth.
    -Individual rights (Very much liking the Constitution)
    -Laissez Faire economic views with some government control to protect the people. (Also called, Liberal economics.)

    Conservative: Political Ideology

    -Faith in the private sector (Oh, like with NO one religion over the other in government? Yea, that one.)
    -Pro-business, oppose higher taxes on business (Doesn’t say anything about on the people.)
    -A minimal approach to welfare and social equality issues (In other words, the government wants your money and minimum responsibility to/for you. THat’s a conservative view!)
    -The market, not government should distribute goods (Basic econimics can tell you that the government needs to have SOME regulation when it comes to the market.
    -Prayer in school (I’m for it.)
    -No abortion (Not a problem with me.)
    -No to gay-marriage (I agree with that too.)
    -Yes to the death penalty (Not to be confused with your mass murdering of undesirables Crockett)

    Democrat:
    -Believe in Liberal economics (free trade and mixed economy)
    -Wish to keep taxes for big business (oil companies for example) in place
    -Favor increased minimum wage.
    -Like to provide for college education in the form of grants and scholarships for all the kiddies today in America.
    -Insert Liberal thought here [generally]. Aside from the moral issues (abortion, gay marriage, etc.) and the race stuff (affirmative action), there is the government role. Government should provide welfare, social security, housing (when needed…like after Katrina…and the government wasn’t ready), protection of rights without bias to race, gender, or social class. More equal representation in government. Medical care. (It goes on, but I’ll be brief with all these.)
    -The Democratic party is split three ways when it comes to same-sex marriage. 1) For legalized marriage 2) For civil unions 3) AGAINST it!
    -They are also split on abortion. 1) For it 2) AGAINST it!
    -Against torture. (Duh.)

    Republican:
    -Believe in Liberal economics (No, I’m not even kidding. In general, Republicans are for liberal economics. Just as in general, Democrats are for Liberal Economics.) Also, supply-side economics is a fan of Regan’s. (Something of Fiscal Policy)
    -Take “conservative” and insert. Remember that Conservatives wish governmetn to have little responsibility for those under that government. Conservatives are friends of big business–not the people. Less rights are a conservative deal. In other words, less representation in government is what it comes out to.
    -Protect gun rights.
    -Against abortion and gay-marriage
    -For adult stem cell research. (Very much so I am. Adult and Embryonic are two WAY different things)
    -Heavy military/strong national defense.
    -Split party with illegal immigration. 1) Throw them back 2) Make them citizens.

    Third Parties: This is where you ignorant people fall.
    These are your extremists and various small groups that will never hold the presidency, Congress majority, or American majority.
    Here’s some examples:
    American Centrist Party
    America First Party
    American Fascist Party
    American Heritage Party
    American Independent Party
    American Nazi Party
    American Party
    American Patriot Party
    American Reform Party
    Centrist Party (United States)
    Christian Freedom Party
    Christian Falangist Party of America
    Citizens For Reform Party
    Commonwealth Party
    Communist Party USA
    Freedom Road Socialist Organization
    Independent American Party
    Jefferson Republican Party
    Ku Klux Klan
    Labor Party
    Marijuana Party
    National Nihilist Party
    National Socialist Movement
    New American Independent Party
    New Union Party
    Peace and Freedom Party
    Pacifist Party of America
    Personal Choice Party
    Populist Party of America
    United Fascist Union
    Prohibition Party
    Reform Party of the United States of America
    Socialist Action
    Socialist Alternative
    Socialist Equality Party
    Socialist Labor Party
    Socialist Party USA
    Socialist Workers Party
    United Citizens Party
    Workers Party, USA
    Workers World Party
    Working Families Party
    World Socialist Party of the United States

    Now, to qualify for any group you do not have to observe all characteristics listed. That means that you can be against liberal moral thought, but for their government sturcture, and not be a Democrat. A Democrat does not equal Liberal….just as a Republican does not equal Conservative. In general, if you are an “extreme” anything, you are in a Third Pary whether you know it or not. Get it?

    Comment by La Mona — June 30, 2007 @ 7:31 pm | Reply

  54. La Mona, an excellent breakdown of political and economical thought in today’s America. SLIGHTLY biased when describing conservative views, but very much true and acceptable. And you’re right, these guys have far more in common with Iran’s Islamic leadership than with anything remotely American. There’s a reason the forefathers (yours, not mine; I’m Canadian) decried the separation of church and state, and were the first nation to do so: because they feared religious totalitarianism, just as the British had at that time.

    Comment by adamnelson — June 30, 2007 @ 7:49 pm | Reply

  55. ANYWAYS, this thread has been massively hijacked. Back to the topic: French in schools. MY position: should not be mandatory as there is no use for it on the US mainland (for the most part), but should definitely be an optional course for those who wish to learn. That’s what democracy is about, choice!

    Comment by adamnelson — June 30, 2007 @ 7:59 pm | Reply

  56. @ adamnelson

    I know the Conservative side was “biased.” The point of that was to show the flaws in the Conservative/Republican views these peeps find fool-proof. They’re not. And to show the pluses of liberal/Democratic thought/parties because they are ignorant to that side. I could explain more, but you already know that, lol. If they respond with half an iota of respect and civility I may explain deeper in. Next is Economics on my to-do list. Monetary Policy, Fiscal Policy, Supply-Side Economics, Keynesian Economics, Classical Economics…I loved my AP Macroeconomics class. AP Government was fun too.

    Comment by La Mona — June 30, 2007 @ 8:02 pm | Reply

  57. Yeh La Mona, er, I mean Lolita Lamona (WTF!? haha!), keep it up and don’t let ignorami like Crockett get you down.

    Vote Science and God (science) in 2008!

    Comment by adamnelson — June 30, 2007 @ 8:52 pm | Reply

  58. Haha, don’t you mean the Liberal Heathen Feminazied Werewolf-ish Witch? Crockett amuses me. I can’t believe that someone who is probably twice my age…probably more, could act that way…well I could, but not so publicly. It’s like a little kid with a bad attitude with a mouth that needs a good washing out with soap.

    As far as who I’ll vote for in 2008–I dunno. John Edwards seems a “conservative Democrat” and to this point seems like the lesser political evil. *shrugs* We shall see. I’m very much a Christian…no matter what Crockett says…and thus against abortion, gay-marriage, and stem cell research (the embryos…I am all for the Adult stem cells…They cause no cancer in their subjects, they have worked about flawlessly to date, and cause no moral issues…so why not?) I’m against abortion because it is murder. I think people should be more responsible than that. And the gay marriage is for more than moral reasons. Changing the definition of marriage will affect government programs, legal documents/processes, job benefits, lots ‘o things. To me Science is just Man’s way of explaining the processes set up by God. [Whether they admit it or not.] And Economics is situational. That’s me in a nutshell.

    Got any plans for 2008? I think Hillary bites. Oh, but you know what would be hilarious if she made it? Bill would be the first lady! That kills me. Politically, it would suck for America, but at least we’d have a laugh.

    Comment by La Mona — June 30, 2007 @ 9:17 pm | Reply

  59. Finally, it’s good to listen to an intelligent and well-spoken voice describing her opinions. Yes, Crockett is unbelievable, and no, I wouldn’t want to run into all 350 pounds of her in the Walmart snack aisle.

    Though I’m firmly atheist, I definitely respect your moral standpoints on the issues you described, and though I disagree with you on several points, I do in fact disagree with abortion in the vast majority of cases, as I feel it happens to be murder.

    Ha, yeah Bill would make an “enchanting” First Lady! But honestly, Hillary stands a good chance at getting the presidency. Though I’m firmly liberal, she is too far-left for me and some of the things she says I don’t find appropriate.

    Science!? Bah! That’s all neo-Darwinist wiccan communazi pinko Islamohomoleftofascist hooey-phooey. Everybody knows your toaster runs because God’s messengers, the electrons, power it, making up for the laziness and worthlessness of protons (never mind that if protons didn’t exist, matter would explode very violently).

    Comment by adamnelson — June 30, 2007 @ 9:25 pm | Reply

  60. Lol, it’s nice to find someone that, while we disagree on things, can still respect each other. It’s really not a hard thing to do. I believe that morals are a great thing. Logic denotes that most the crap teens my age are into is unhealthy. (I know–duh.) And having a decent set of morals in general means a more disciplined person if that makes sense…That person seems to understand more values in life. Make sense? I’m getting sleepy.🙂 I’m glad that we can agree on abortion…people say rape should be an exception, but I say that that child is as much the victim as the initial victim.

    And yea, sadly, Clinton as a decent shot. She is too centered on race and gender I think. I hate affirmative action with a passion. And I don’t think your skin pigments determine “you.” There are other factors that affect that. There are tendencies in social classes/areas, but I think that is because many are blinded by their respective stereotypes and begin to live them out. It sounds like an issue that Psychology could answer (another interest of mine.)

    Comment by La Mona — June 30, 2007 @ 9:43 pm | Reply

  61. You’re right. It really isn’t hard to live and let live. Jesus did in fact teach just that. These guys seemed to have missed that part of the Gospel though.

    So you’re into psychology eh? That’s very interesting; I know very little about it, but I find the brain itself fascinating. I’m all about science though (physics mostly), as it describes all the laws by which our universe operates. It’s like looking at the plot summary of the universe!

    And yeah, you’re right, Hillary is a little heavy on affirmative action. That’s another liberal thing that I’m rather indifferent about. I think race quotas are dumb and counter-productive, and that a laissez-faire approach to race and gender is more progressive.

    Comment by adamnelson — June 30, 2007 @ 9:52 pm | Reply

  62. These people missed the entire Gospel…I’m surprised they got Jesus’ name right!

    I love Psychology. When I get to college I plan on Music (performance or edu. I’m not sure) psychology, and a minor in Spanish. I feel stupid not being bilingual…And Literature I like. Government and Economics is amusing for debate stuff too. I’m not a big Science person. I’m really good at math, but I just don’t like to sit down and do it for long periods of time. Physics is cool though. And you’re right–it is the plot summary. Whether we look from your view or mine, Physics runs the place. Chemistry though (I took the AP course for it this past year…is a beast.) I HATE Chemistry. I just want a 3 or better on the AP exam so I don’t have to take it in college.
    What do you think on Obama? (Other than it is soooo close to Osama, so there must be connections! *loving the late night sarcasm*)

    Comment by La Mona — June 30, 2007 @ 10:12 pm | Reply

  63. There really is a Marijuana Party?

    Comment by Skeptic — July 1, 2007 @ 6:25 am | Reply

  64. Yea, sad isn’t it. There’s actually a couple of them. One is the PPP or soemthing to that effect. In my AP Gov’t class I had to look up and read about a ton of Third Parties….Nazis, Facsists, Pot Smokers, Witches, etc, etc….The site is still open I could go find the link for it. It’ll cover some of the ones on that list, and some that aren’t. Do you want it?

    Comment by La Mona — July 1, 2007 @ 7:36 am | Reply

  65. I like the Nihilist Party. What’s the point? It reminds me of the Apathy Party on Futurama.

    Comment by Salmo — July 1, 2007 @ 8:45 am | Reply

  66. It would be a great statement if every one who doesn’t like any of the candidates voted for the Marijuana Party!

    But then America would have to invade jamaica, Mexico and the Netherlands to meet the growing domestic demand…

    Comment by Skeptic — July 1, 2007 @ 10:23 am | Reply

  67. La Mona,
    While you seem well educated in a secular humanist school, you will never be enlightened until you study the Bible and accept its’ truth. All the words you know are meaningless babble. The words of the Bible have God’s voice behind them. I pray for you.

    Comment by John Calvin — July 1, 2007 @ 3:07 pm | Reply

  68. Since these people think Brownback has a chance, let’s give this scenario a chance as well….:D
    I don’t think we’d have to invade Mexico. All we have to do is allow their illegal aliens to keep coming in and they would supply us. (Mexico hands out GPS to some of those planning on a jump. Why? Because the Mexican government’s biggest single source of income (second biggest when oil is above 70$ a barrel) is the money the illegal aliens here send home. A total of $29 million dollars I believe….) Isn’t that funny? There’s a government conspiracy for ya.

    Comment by La Mona — July 1, 2007 @ 3:28 pm | Reply

  69. Amen, John Calvin. I couldn’t have said it better myself.

    Comment by Psycheout — July 1, 2007 @ 4:58 pm | Reply

  70. … you do know that the books in the Bible were never meant to be compiled into one collection, right? No? What about how the Gospels of Luke and Matthew have gross contradictions in them (like Jesus’ geneaology)? Did that escape your notice too? God didn’t write/create the Bible, people did. You seem to forget that.

    Or maybe God is so unreachable that he inputs grievous contradictions into his “own” work. Bravo.

    Comment by adamnelson — July 1, 2007 @ 5:06 pm | Reply

  71. Once more, I will attempt to share with you thick-skulled, ignorant, education deprived, biblically incorrect fools. I am a Christian. You have NO idea the enlightenment I have and that which you lack. You don’t even know the book to which you claim your beliefs. You let me know how God takes to the “torturing” of the Liberals, homosexuals, and Muslims. K? I’ll take that in the form of Scripture.
    And it doesn’t matter what environment you put me in. It can be in a group of people at school, adults, other teens, at church, or in town somewhere, I’m inteligent all the same. My IQ doesn’t drop when I move from location A to location B. It stays at the level that God gave me, and very much appreciated that He did. I am educated in English, Economics, Government, Politics, and the Bible (amoung others). To be educated in one you do not have to give up another.

    Comment by La Mona — July 1, 2007 @ 5:16 pm | Reply

  72. But they’re not even intelligent in one. They know nothing about the Bible or Christianity, or Liberals or even their deity-idol Brownback! They are ignorant in all fields.

    Comment by adamnelson — July 1, 2007 @ 5:37 pm | Reply

  73. They don’t even have an excuse anymore to NOT know about Liberals…I gave them the basic breakdown! The Bible though…they should be ashamed. These people double my respect for the forefathers. When I get back perhaps I will start an Economics deal here. I figure if they don’t have an excuse to be ignorant anymore……:D

    Comment by La Mona — July 1, 2007 @ 5:44 pm | Reply

  74. Hm…interesting thread that I missed. Frankly, I see no harm in learning about another culture, but certainly don’t think it should be mandatory.

    And Mrs. Gaines-Crockett: some of your commentary was a tad…un-Christian. Let us always try to maintain high ground, shall we?

    Comment by Lyssie — July 1, 2007 @ 9:16 pm | Reply

  75. “And Mrs. Gaines-Crockett: some of your commentary was a tad…un-Christian. Let us always try to maintain high ground, shall we?”

    That’s the understatement of the year.

    Comment by adamnelson — July 1, 2007 @ 10:23 pm | Reply

  76. I second that. Being the object of her affections was the highlight of my day.

    Comment by La Mona — July 1, 2007 @ 10:33 pm | Reply

  77. La Moana, you’re a weirdo. We don’t like that kind of language and perverted fantasy on this family website. Tone it down or be forever banned. Take your perversions to Daily Kos.

    Comment by Psycheout — July 2, 2007 @ 12:23 am | Reply

  78. We should shift the emphasis in our schools away from the languages of anti-American Old Europe, like French, and towards the languages of pro-American New Europe, like Albanian and Estonian. Also, it is scandalous that despite that country’s stalwart support as an ally in Iraq, not a single American high school offers classes in Australian.

    Comment by mattsteinglass — July 2, 2007 @ 2:46 am | Reply

  79. I like the way you think about things, mattsteinglass.

    Comment by Sisyphus — July 2, 2007 @ 7:35 am | Reply

  80. I don’t know about that, I think Canadian and British are much more useful to Americans.

    Comment by Skeptic — July 2, 2007 @ 8:07 am | Reply

  81. “La Moana, you’re a weirdo. We don’t like that kind of language and perverted fantasy on this family website. Tone it down or be forever banned. Take your perversions to Daily Kos.”

    I’m sorry your so shoved up in the gutter right by Crockett. I welcome you to the broad English language. There are these words (lots of them really) that mean more than one thing (synonyms!). “Affections” means the attention she gave to me with her sorry insults from her blind ignorant perspective. It in no way means anything sexual. Please, if that’s what you thought, then you’re the perv here.

    Comment by La Mona — July 2, 2007 @ 8:13 am | Reply

  82. La Mona,
    Are you familiar with the word pedant?

    Comment by John Calvin — July 2, 2007 @ 8:38 am | Reply

  83. Someone who is concerned with detail. I am very analytical. I don’t deny that. Or, do you mean the part that means someone who shows off knowledge? Well, in this case with Mr. Psyche detail is obviously important because my statement was misunderstood. And as far as “showing” my knowledge…this is a blog where all can comment from their points of view and in civil manner, disagree with others (unless of course you are certain people here.) Either way, I’m doing exactly as I should. Are you saying that I should not straighten out that misinterpretation? Or are you saying that I should pretend to be an ignorant fool and back down from what I believe in because a group of people with twisted perspective bark at me?

    Comment by La Mona — July 2, 2007 @ 8:55 am | Reply

  84. If there is one thing that’s fore sure, you guys are NOT pedantic. I, however, would take being called pedantic a compliment, as it is required for what I do.

    Oh yeah, I like how you threaten banning somebody from a public weblog because they differ in their opinions. This is the vasw, wide intar-nets. If you don’t like mixing of opinions, I suggest you hop on the Ham Radio bandwagon.

    Oh and by the way, Ham radios unfortunately prove a round earth. Try using one sometime: you will hear your own signal bounce around the earth and come back to you. The result is an echo of your transmission repeated for about two seconds. It’s really cool to listen to, especially when you know why it happens.

    Brownback for a saddle-shaped universe!

    Comment by adamnelson — July 2, 2007 @ 9:46 am | Reply

  85. “you would know that attacking a country at random”

    Look you Lame-O Monkey. Its not random to attack a country that has hated America ever since we achieved our freedom in 1776 and they failed in their bloodbath in 1790. The French harbour a deep malignant view of us because they are embarassed and sore that we had to SAVE them so we could beat up on the Germans. (big mistake that)

    The French actively tried to prevent our punishment of Qudaffi, the first terrorist, and you want us to forgive them? NEVER!

    Comment by Happy Clam — July 2, 2007 @ 10:10 am | Reply

  86. For the attention of Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett:

    Existing on damnation’s edge, my mind had never known to witness such a violent show of power overthrown and vile rantings as you… as angels fighting aimlessly, still dying by the sword, legions kill all in sight… to get the one called Lord… The Gates of Hell lie waiting as you’ll soon see, there is no price to pay just follow me and I can take your lost soul from the grave!! Jesus knows your soul can not be saved Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett, so crucify the so called Lord, he soon shall fall to me!! Your souls are damned, your God has fell to slave for me eternally. Hell awaits Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett.

    The Reaper guard’s the darkened gates that Satan calls his home and Demons feed the furnace where… The Dead are free to roam… lonely children of the night, there’s seven ways to go… each leading to the burning hole that Lucifer controls… priests of Hades seek the sacred star… Satan sees the answer lies not far. Zombies screaming souls cry out to you Satanic laws prevail your life is through. Pray to the moon Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett… when it is round… death with you shall then abound… What you seek… for can’t be found… in sea or sky or underground. Now I have you deep inside my everlasting grasp… The seven bloody Gates of Hell is where you’ll live your last days Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett.

    Warriors from Hell’s Domain will bring you to your death with the flames of Hades burning strong and your soul shall never rest Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett. The Gates of Hell lie waiting as you see… there’s no price to pay just follow me, as I can take your lost soul from the grave… Jesus knows your soul can not be saved you harlot of Satan!! Sacrifice the lives of all I know they soon shall die… their souls are damned to rot in Hell and keep the fire growing deep inside… Hell awaits Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett, Hell awaits…

    Comment by Colonel Walter E. Kurtz — July 2, 2007 @ 10:34 am | Reply

  87. Qadaffi was NOT the first terrorist. The fact that you even said that shows you know nothing about world politics or events.

    Also, the Americans didn’t do all that much in the European theatre. In fact it was the Russians who tied up 80 percent of the Wermacht’s military resources. If it weren’t for the Russians, the Germans would’ve taken all of Europe and Asia. The Americans (and British and Canadians, who together were over twice the size of the Americans) attacked the unprotected German flank. If anybody deserves credit for Allied victory in WWII, it’s the Russians. American view of their role is terribly conceited.

    Comment by adamnelson — July 2, 2007 @ 11:15 am | Reply

  88. That’s the understatement of the year.

    Only of the year?

    “We should shift the emphasis in our schools away from the languages of anti-American Old Europe, like French, and towards the languages of pro-American New Europe, like Albanian and Estonian. Also, it is scandalous that despite that country’s stalwart support as an ally in Iraq, not a single American high school offers classes in Australian.”

    Austrailians are speaking english…

    And all that New Europe/Old Europe stuff is junk anyway. The French and Germans didn´t follow you into Iraq because they knew in advance that it would become the quagmire it is now.
    Who´s your friend?
    The one who always just does what you want him to do, hoping to get something in return? No, that´s a brown-noser.
    Or the one who tells you that it´s a stupid idea and refuses to help you do the thing? Yeah, that´s what a friend should be.

    “Look you Lame-O Monkey. Its not random to attack a country that has hated America ever since we achieved our freedom in 1776 and they failed in their bloodbath in 1790. The French harbour a deep malignant view of us because they are embarassed and sore that we had to SAVE them so we could beat up on the Germans. (big mistake that) ”

    LOL. Weren´t it the french in the first place that helped you with your little revolution and gifted you that big statue in the harbor of New York?

    “The French actively tried to prevent our punishment of Qudaffi, the first terrorist, and you want us to forgive them? NEVER!”

    Terrorism existed centuries ago… Quadaffi was barely the first.

    “Also, the Americans didn’t do all that much in the European theatre. In fact it was the Russians who tied up 80 percent of the Wermacht’s military resources. If it weren’t for the Russians, the Germans would’ve taken all of Europe and Asia. The Americans (and British and Canadians, who together were over twice the size of the Americans) attacked the unprotected German flank. If anybody deserves credit for Allied victory in WWII, it’s the Russians. American view of their role is terribly conceited.”

    Agreed. Even the Wehrmacht veterans themselves said that they were pleased to fight americans instead of brits, russians or especially canadians. They were easier to fight off and often not quite that aggressive or spirited in their attacks.

    Comment by PG — July 2, 2007 @ 12:37 pm | Reply

  89. Why learn the language of people who don’t bathe and eat slugs? Might as well learn the lingo of the cockroach eaters on our southern border.

    Comment by Paul Krassner — July 2, 2007 @ 1:10 pm | Reply

  90. “And Mrs. Gaines-Crockett: some of your commentary was a tad…un-Christian. Let us always try to maintain high ground, shall we?”

    That’s the understatement of the year.

    Here now, be nice. I think there is plenty of room on this site for differing opinions, within the bounds of civility, of course.

    And speaking of civility, I’d like to ask that all commenters (and posters) tone down some of the vitriol. If you disapprove of another culture, that is your prerogative. However, epithets are really quite unnecessary.

    Comment by Lyssie — July 2, 2007 @ 1:29 pm | Reply

  91. “If it weren’t for the Russians, the Germans would’ve taken all of Europe and Asia.”

    Why you little snit. Why do you hate America?

    “Terrorism existed centuries ago… Quadaffi was barely the first”

    Bullcrap. The Iranians were just college students and no one was hurt. The fang-tooth Libyans are a different matter. Muammar el-Qaddafi had plans to assassinate American diplomats in Rome and Paris and President Reagan expelled all Libyan diplomats from the U.S. (May 6, 1981)

    That was the first sign of this cancer that can only be cure by prayer and the strong hand of the one and only Christian GOD!

    Comment by Happy Clam — July 2, 2007 @ 2:51 pm | Reply

  92. for you America haters out there:

    America won WWII almost by itself! The russians were peasants and needed trucks and radios and its just because they were willing to get 30 million of there own people killed that they had any effect on the Germans (mostly by getting shot and using up bullets)

    The Brits and Canadians, while orderly, where scared little bed-wetters who never had a chance without AMERICAN support. (Hint: They were losing before we joined; they won afterwards) you are a fool

    And lets not even start about how WE won the war aginst the evil (Watch it with the terminology – Lyssie)

    Comment by Happy Clam — July 2, 2007 @ 3:20 pm | Reply

  93. Thank you, Lyssie, for being a cool head of reason in a sea of emotions. You are a blessing to us all. Some more than most, obviously, given the amount of leftieloons who come here spewing hatred towards Chrsitians and Americans.

    God bless you! I will pray for everyone here, especially those who hate me.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — July 2, 2007 @ 3:32 pm | Reply

  94. Thank you, Mrs. Gaines-Crockett. That is very kind.

    Comment by Lyssie — July 2, 2007 @ 3:34 pm | Reply

  95. I do my best, Lyssie. Just knowing that any day the Lord Jesus Christ will return and that so many of these Liberals are going to be left behind to perish breaks my heart. If I get upset with them it’s because I love each and every one of them so much. Perhaps I come on strong sometimes but it is Tough Love done the only way I know how, God’s way.

    Come home soon, Jesus!

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — July 2, 2007 @ 3:40 pm | Reply

  96. Crockett, I don’t hate you. I hate the way you act. “Perhaps I come on strong…” isn’t the issue…It’s not that your opinion is coming on strong–it’s that your name calling is.

    “Look you Lame-O Monkey. Its not random to attack a country that has hated America ever since we achieved our freedom in 1776 and they failed in their bloodbath in 1790. The French harbour a deep malignant view of us because they are embarassed and sore that we had to SAVE them so we could beat up on the Germans. (big mistake that)”

    Have we not learned civility while I was away? It is a random attack. Something to the effect of ‘we should bomb them to find out’ was said to provoke my “random” comment. Attacking France like that has horrible reprecussions. Those you do not see because you still refuse to learn anything of the subjects that would so heavily help you in this debate/discussion. And since you refuse to listen there’s nothing I or anyone but you can do for your stupidity on the issue. Now, you know what? In WW2 what if it was the U.S. that was in the same geographical location as France? Germany would’ve taken us over and we probably would’ve had to have France come bail us out. The reason we came in late was because we weren’t sitting on the front lines. (There’s this thing called an “ocean” seperating us.) Germany just wasn’t a huge threat to our country yet, and we were licking wounds from the Depression. We were in no way shape or form fit economically for war. It’s not that we just joined to save France….we joined to protect our assets (allies…as the UK was going down as well, and ourselves after Germany showed us hostility. See: Zimmerman Note). And it is because of Hitler splitting into two fronts and sending them off to fight Russia that he was beaten. Even the American History books will tell you that. (It hasn’t been too long since I’ve had to read one of those books, remember?)

    “The Brits and Canadians, while orderly, where scared little bed-wetters who never had a chance without AMERICAN support. (Hint: They were losing before we joined; they won afterwards) you are a fool”

    Please, look at how long they were fighting the war and how long we did. They were running out of supplies. If not for the resource issue they would’ve been fine. America came in at full hit points. And I would call the Brits anything but “bed-wetters” after what they did in London when Germany attacked. I’ll leave getting the details to you. There, homework.

    “Thank you, Lyssie, for being a cool head of reason in a sea of emotions. You are a blessing to us all. Some more than most, obviously, given the amount of leftieloons who come here spewing hatred towards Chrsitians and Americans. …I do my best, Lyssie. Just knowing that any day the Lord Jesus Christ will return and that so many of these Liberals are going to be left behind to perish breaks my heart. If I get upset with them it’s because I love each and every one of them so much. Perhaps I come on strong sometimes but it is Tough Love done the only way I know how, God’s way.”

    I love how you always seem to backhand something good you had going for you with more name-calling of the stereotypes that you think exist in that form. The “be more civil” is really aimed at you. Some of the ones you label “liberal” have out done you there….actually, many of them…
    And your “tough love” is not very God-like.

    Okieday, I think that’s enough for this thread, let’s play elsewhere, shall we?

    Comment by La Mona — July 2, 2007 @ 5:02 pm | Reply

  97. Though this may hurt some of you in your pride, it needs to be said. America had little difference in the course of the European theatre in WWII. First off, whether you like it or not, the Russians almost single-handedly chased the Nazis back to Berlin, at the cost of over 30 million of their people. They basically drowned them in their own blood.

    Also, the US had their hands full with Japan and had very little to do with Europe. They had two beaches at Normandy but less committed men and supplies than the Canadians or the British. And yes, Wermacht troops did in fact prefer fighting American soldiers because they tended to give up more readily. Why? They weren’t fighting for their homes the way the Europeans were. You forget that the Europeans were fighting in the wastes of their own town and were far more motivated than the Americans.

    And calling the British or Canadians bedwetters just shows that you’re totally ignorant to history. During the Battle of Britain, they were terribly outnumbered and fased superior numbers, technology, and training, and yet they held out.

    In fact, the funny thing is that during Operation Overlord, the British and Canadians took their beaches with minimal losses. The American beaches, however, were a mess. Their airstrikes destroyed none of their targets, which then dropped their troops into a meat grinder that they barely took. You greatly overestimate the influence of the States in WWII.

    Comment by adamnelson — July 2, 2007 @ 8:02 pm | Reply

  98. Very much so.

    Comment by La Mona — July 2, 2007 @ 8:14 pm | Reply

  99. Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett: you go to church, you kiss that cross, you think you will be saved at any cost? You have your own reality, called Christianity. So, you spend your life just kissing ass, a trait that’s grown as your time on this planet has passed. You think the world will end today, so you praise the lord, it’s all you ever seem to say. The Dead are free to roam… lonely children of the night, there’s seven ways to go… each leading to the burning hole that Satan controls!!

    Jesus “saves” – ha! listen to you pray. You think you’ll see the pearly gates, when death takes you away Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett? Far away, deep below to the pits of Hades. For all respect you cannot lust, in an invisible man you place your trust. Indirect dependency. Eternal attempt at amnesty. He will decide who lives and dies. Depopulate Satan’s rise. You will be an accessory. No need to pray, the gates of pearl have turned to gold. It seems you’ve lost your way. No words of praise, no promised land to take you to… there is no other way.

    Yet you claim “God” speaks to you Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett, your restless mouth full of this that gains you popularity. You care not for the old that suffer, when empty pockets cry from hunger. Penniless from their generosity, sharing their money to quench your greed. Searching for the answer to their prayers, they cry their last wish of need. You say find salvation in the lord, tell me liar, how do you know.

    Send your donations, contribute to the cause. Luxuries. Your righteous reward? Praise the lord, praise god, is what you wish to believe: Remember, there is no heaven without a hell… and in your mind’s eye could you truely believe, that by giving you can save your soul, could you be so naive?? You think he heals the sick, or even raises the dead; Religious blackmail is a deceit of trust, that death will come and all will be lost… Jesus knows your soul can not be saved you harlot of Satan, telling lies…

    Can you hear the serpents call Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett, look deep in those deceiving eyes. Ignore the writing on the wall, you should read between the lies. When doubt subsides his honesty an inquiry, is it blasphemy? Impure the soul, that’s made no suffer, no sermons left to hide or cover, an empty promise, lie unfulfilled, to steal a dream or get it killed… they claim your trip to heaven is nearby, you may believe it Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett, but Satan wouldn’t lie.

    Tell the truth, Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett, save your soul.

    Comment by Colonel Walter E. Kurtz — July 3, 2007 @ 9:28 am | Reply

  100. “In fact, the funny thing is that during Operation Overlord, the British and Canadians took their beaches with minimal losses. ”

    Yes, well, that was part of Montgomery’s plan. He always put the weak British and Canadians in the EASY sectors and had the Americans do all the HARD work. He said” I’d rather see two Americans killed than one of my lads”

    After all Montgomery’s failures, it was only because of Eisenhower’s love of that smelly fat b**ard Churchill that he was kept on.

    Comment by Happy Clam — July 3, 2007 @ 11:13 am | Reply

  101. La Mona, if you are going to totally miss the satire, at least get your facts straight.

    In post 58, you said John Edwards was a “conservative Democrat”. In fact he’s running much further to the left this time round, concentrating on poverty and essentially calling for a new New Deal.

    You said you’re opposed to using embryonic stem cells because it’s like abortion, seemingly failing to realise that the stem cells in question are leftovers and if not used for research they’ll be thrown away.

    Opposition to gay marriage because it involves bureaucratic change is absurd. Bureaucratic change is a large part of what government does. Stick to the moral argument, it’s harder to knock down.

    As for the abortion one, I can’t convince you on a faith-based issue, but for an opposing view to yours from a religious perspective, you might want to look here: http://www.catholicsforchoice.org/topics/abortion/documents/2000reflectionsofacatholictheologian.pdf

    – – – – –

    To get back on topic, a cookie for the first person to work out which Texas governor said the following:

    “If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it ought to be good enough for the children of Texas.”

    Comment by Lev Bronstein — July 3, 2007 @ 12:06 pm | Reply

  102. “If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it ought to be good enough for the children of Texas.”

    Must be Bush.

    Comment by Skeptic — July 3, 2007 @ 2:49 pm | Reply

  103. Edwards….I like the New Deal. And I don’t mind a new one either. Also, focusing on poverty and leading to some kind of economic inprovement wouldn’t bother me either. *shrugs* Considering the time we have until election time….and I’m basically looking at the “impressionist” view as well. As time gets closer someone else may appeal. I can’t really say right now. I know it’s not Brownback! (I think I mentioned that up there…if not, sorry.) In the end, one still must select the “lesser evil” in the political games. How ’bout you? What are things lookin’ like for you?

    People complain about the embryos because it’s like abortion…When I mentioned that I meant, why not just use the adult stem cells…then no one can complain of “moral issues.” Plus, the adult stem cells have had much better times with their tests….

    Yes, government makes huge changes….but the number of changes that would bring is many, and would cause major adjustment…It would be like “shock” if that makes sense. Also, aside from the morals, and the government, there’s some health things with it that just suck to say the least. My reasons come from a mix of them all.

    I know the opposing views to abortion. If I had to pick an “all or nothing” I’m going to be against it. I don’t think that women should abort a child just because they didn’t plan it. I know there are many circumstances…but in general……I’m trying to stay in a nutshell.

    I do appreciate though that you don’t take after certain others here when responding to people’s posts.🙂 Very much appreciated indeed. If you’re interested I would like to here your views in detail, and I could give all mine. Many of the people here are very ADD and get in a name-calling frenzy when you post something with paragraphs….that is if they disagree with you.

    And yea, I would guess Bush did that. Lol.

    “Is our children getting the education they deserve?” -Take a guess…

    Comment by La Mona — July 3, 2007 @ 6:20 pm | Reply

  104. Nope. A certain Miriam A. Ferguson, back in the first half of the twentieth century. Bush would be far too easy an answer. Yours is Dan Quayle, right?

    Adult stem cells seem to have much less of a range of potential uses. They can also only be used for the individual they’re taken from, so there are issues of scale. Plus the embryonic stem cells are already there and as I said if they’re not used for this they’ll just be destroyed. Their destruction doesn’t bother me, as I don’t consider them remotely close to human, but if it does both you I’d argue that at least the ones we have right now ought to be used.

    And if by ‘health things’ you mean AIDS then I don’t see how banning marriage stops that. It won’t stop them being gay. Besides, if there’s one demographic that realises the importance of condoms, it’s homosexuals. I also think the non-moral changes would be pretty small. Partners could be classed as next-of-kin, allowing them the right to visit their significant others in hospitals and act as their medical proxies and it’d make it easier when one of them died intestate. It’d also simplify the benefits and tax system slightly, because they’d just be grouped with other married couples, rather than two individuals with no legal connection who just happen to, for example, own a house in common.

    Of course, none of that changes the fact that you may find gay marriage abortion, even of organisms the size of a full stop, morally wrong. I just think it’s important not to stop at morality when looking at an issue.

    Comment by Onan — July 4, 2007 @ 5:52 pm | Reply

  105. children should not learn more English, just the basics. Extensive vocabularies lead to unmasculine bookishness, intellectualism and ivory tower liberalism.

    Remember The Origin of Species was written in English and it contained some very big words.

    Comment by Eagleguncross — August 1, 2007 @ 3:09 pm | Reply

  106. America won WWII almost by itself! The russians were peasants and needed trucks and radios and its just because they were willing to get 30 million of there own people killed that they had any effect on the Germans (mostly by getting shot and using up bullets)

    America would not even had a bridgehead without the brits and canadians. And the penduulum was already swinging backwards in 1942, after Stalingrad and EL Alamein. Bith battles in which the USA were not present. And that “any effect” of the russians translates into more than 75% of all german losses during the war. Seeing that the brits and canadians handled the elite forces on the western front, there´s hardly anything left to give the USA credit for. Perhaps drenching the Rapido rivr in red by trying something one could only call tactical suicide.

    The Brits and Canadians, while orderly, where scared little bed-wetters who never had a chance without AMERICAN support. (Hint: They were losing before we joined; they won afterwards) you are a fool

    They had won the Battle of Britain and they were throwing back the Afrika Korps after El Alamein before you joined. And they had most german elite units against them while the US forces were generally going against second tier units. They handled the real fighting for you!

    Yes, well, that was part of Montgomery’s plan. He always put the weak British and Canadians in the EASY sectors and had the Americans do all the HARD work. He said” I’d rather see two Americans killed than one of my lads”

    Actually Omaha was the second thoughest beach sector. One of two that were guarded by regular german infantry. Th other one, which was due to even tougher emplacements and additional german reinforcements at hand regarded as the most dangerous was Juno. The Canadians took Juno with an action right from the book and even had to withdraw a bit at the end of th day because their neighbours couldn´t catch up with them. The US forces at Omaha…. Well, everyone knows that story.

    Comment by PG — August 3, 2007 @ 2:59 pm | Reply


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