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June 18, 2007

Liberal Atheism is to Blame for All the Problems

Filed under: Defending America,Democratic Idiocy,Faith — Sisyphus @ 4:39 pm

An observant reader sent me this article from 2002:

An important aspect of Americans’ religious beliefs changed dramatically in the 1990s. The proportion of Americans reporting “no religious preference” doubled from 7 percent to an unprecedented level of 14 percent between 1991 and 2000, and this increase is attributable to changes in both population characteristics and the politicization of religion, according to research by University of California-Berkeley sociologists published in the current issue of the American Sociological Review.
In their April article, “Why More Americans Have No Religious Preference: Politics and Generations,” co-authors Michael Hout and Claude Fischer* report that the decline had little to do with religious skepticism, since most respondents continue to hold conventional religious beliefs. Factors that appear to be responsible for the escalation in alienation from organized religion instead include demographic shifts (e.g., age group membership, delayed marriage and parenthood) and political beliefs.

Finally, some clear-cut evidence that American atheism was on the rise just before Hurricane Katrina! If reading the Bible teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that God punishes the unrepentant sinner more harshly for his very stiff-neckedness. It was this same quality which has led God to punish us over and over again this decade, for despite our pious President, our nation wallows in iniquity. Do you think the Almighty wouldn’t notice? He has, and has punished us accordingly. Hurricane Katrina is but one of many examples. Who knows, but that worse may yet come, unless we turn away from this secularist flirtation with perdition. Therein lies madness, my friends. Therein lies madness.

50 Comments »

  1. Jesus, come quickly and smite the reprobates, infidels, and heretics into the deepest pits of Hell for all eternity! I fear for every soul and for what will become of this Godly nation.

    Sam Brownback in 2008 and in 2012. Again in 2016 if we can get a Conservative Congress and House to make it legal for him to serve three or more terms.

    Comment by baptistsforbrown2008 — June 18, 2007 @ 4:46 pm | Reply

  2. yea praise all of your words for they are true and speak from the heart, to the heart.

    Those debauched secularist have been fornicating and idolatising and now they are going to PAY!

    Comment by Happy Clam — June 18, 2007 @ 8:33 pm | Reply

  3. If God is just why did he punish all those religious poor black people in New Orleans rather than those rich white sinners in San Francisco?

    Comment by Second Coming — June 19, 2007 @ 12:21 am | Reply

  4. This just CONFIRMS ONCE AND FOR ALL what MR. O’REILLY has been saying ALL THESE YEARS about the SECULAR PROGRESSIVE AGENDA being pushed by GODLESS LIBERALS!!

    Comment by b4bnc — June 19, 2007 @ 12:31 am | Reply

  5. And SECOND COMING you should know that ALL WILL BE JUDGED in the end and it is not THIS WORLD that matters but the NEXT WORLD!

    Comment by b4bnc — June 19, 2007 @ 12:33 am | Reply

  6. When will these liberals repent and save themselves? How much more will it take? That’s what I want to know, anyway.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 19, 2007 @ 4:44 am | Reply

  7. If God is just why did he punish all those religious poor black people in New Orleans rather than those rich white sinners in San Francisco?”

    New Orleans was a den of iniquity. It had many homosexuals and hedonists in it, as well.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 19, 2007 @ 4:47 am | Reply

  8. “And SECOND COMING you should know that ALL WILL BE JUDGED in the end and it is not THIS WORLD that matters but the NEXT WORLD!”

    If God is really like you guys portray him, God himself is immoral and since Satan = antiGod this means Satan is nice (fall, my ass! History is written by the victors.)

    Think about it, all the smart philosophers and scientists go to hell, as do “indecent” women and rock musicians, so I know where I wanna go when I die!

    Comment by Skeptic — June 19, 2007 @ 6:40 am | Reply

  9. “Think about it, all the smart philosophers and scientists go to hell, as do “indecent” women and rock musicians, so I know where I wanna go when I die!”

    They’ll be too busy writhing in agony to talk to you very much, Skeptic.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 19, 2007 @ 7:37 am | Reply

    • It’s any wonder why conservatives are in political wilderness in government. It’s due to people like you in the Christian Taliban.

      Comment by Michael — October 31, 2009 @ 2:49 am | Reply

  10. “They’ll be too busy writhing in agony to talk to you very much, Skeptic.”

    Have you been there?

    I think these are all lies of the media, maybe hell is really a nice place: sex, drugs and rock ‘n’roll and you can’t die!

    Comment by Skeptic — June 19, 2007 @ 7:41 am | Reply

  11. forget those dickheads religious scumbags Skeptic, they are already in hell, for there is no worst hell than idiocy and illiteracy !

    Comment by aliocha — June 19, 2007 @ 10:34 am | Reply

  12. Thanks for sharing, aliocha. It was obscene, yet incorrect.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 19, 2007 @ 10:54 am | Reply

  13. SKEPTIC — you ADMIT that you WORSHIP SATAN?! GET THEE BEHIND ME!!

    Comment by b4bnc — June 19, 2007 @ 11:07 am | Reply

  14. “And SECOND COMING you should know that ALL WILL BE JUDGED in the end and it is not THIS WORLD that matters but the NEXT WORLD!”

    Comment by b4bnc — June 19, 2007 @ 12:33 am

    If that is truly the case then there is no excuse for punishing the innocent in this world. Call yourselves Christians? Jesus would have been ashamed of you.

    Comment by Second Coming — June 19, 2007 @ 11:20 am | Reply

  15. Exactly, SC. Talk about ignoring Jesus’ teachings … woah.

    Comment by interpreted — June 19, 2007 @ 11:25 am | Reply

  16. […] the user Second Coming remarked, those who were hurt most in the storm were the poor black communities, who were fairly religious. […]

    Pingback by All your problem are belong to us « Blogs 4 Moonbats — June 19, 2007 @ 11:56 am | Reply

  17. That 14% atheists an’t going to look so cool when they are lying dead in the mud with the rest of the Anti-Christ’s army. I am just saying the atheists need to stop hating and learn to love their Savior like He loves them before they are so much crow bait.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — June 19, 2007 @ 12:08 pm | Reply

  18. If Jesus loves them, then why would they be ‘crow bait’?

    Comment by interpreted — June 19, 2007 @ 12:13 pm | Reply

  19. “That 14% atheists an’t going to look so cool when they are lying dead in the mud with the rest of the Anti-Christ’s army. I am just saying the atheists need to stop hating and learn to love their Savior like He loves them before they are so much crow bait.”

    Stay the hell away from my followers! Capice?

    Comment by Satan — June 19, 2007 @ 12:18 pm | Reply

  20. “If Jesus loves them, then why would they be ‘crow bait’?”

    Because God crushes his enemies out of love. I honestly don’t think you’ve ever read the Bible.

    Comment by DPS — June 19, 2007 @ 12:22 pm | Reply

  21. Yes I have, so you thought wrong.

    Comment by interpreted — June 19, 2007 @ 12:23 pm | Reply

  22. “Yes I have, so you thought wrong.”

    It clearly didn’t take. Better do it again.

    Comment by DPS — June 19, 2007 @ 12:38 pm | Reply

  23. “That 14% atheists an’t going to look so cool when they are lying dead in the mud with the rest of the Anti-Christ’s army. I am just saying the atheists need to stop hating and learn to love their Savior like He loves them before they are so much crow bait.”

    Comment by BJ Tabor — June 19, 2007 @ 12:08 pm

    Hey, I’ve got an idea. If we can get all the gays in San Francisco to spread themselves round the rest of the country, then we can wipeout all the right-wing Christian loonies in a sort of retribution by God suicide attack!

    Comment by Atheists for Jesus — June 19, 2007 @ 12:46 pm | Reply

  24. “Yes I have, so you thought wrong.”

    Have you? Then you will recall in Revelations that Jesus will call the birds down to eat the dead of the Anti-Christ’s army after He slaughters them.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — June 19, 2007 @ 1:45 pm | Reply

  25. You would have thought all those non-believers would have gotten a clue after God let those terrorists down the Twin Towers and hit the Pentagon but sadly, no. They’re so incorrigibly lazy and stubborn that it is clearly time for some more smiting. I will be praying for some tonight.

    Comment by carsick — June 19, 2007 @ 2:38 pm | Reply

  26. Please, Lord, smite these heathens and sodomites and welfare queens and organic farmers and wizards. Smite them, and smite them again, and keep on smiting them, for as long as it takes. There are some commenters on this blog who really, really need a good, hard smiting, but since you know who they are and they know who they are, I won’t name them.

    Comment by DPS — June 19, 2007 @ 11:58 pm | Reply

  27. “That 14% atheists an’t going to look so cool when they are lying dead in the mud with the rest of the Anti-Christ’s army. I am just saying the atheists need to stop hating and learn to love their Savior like He loves them before they are so much crow bait.”

    Amen!

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 20, 2007 @ 5:17 am | Reply

  28. ‘Have you? Then you will recall in Revelations that Jesus will call the birds down to eat the dead of the Anti-Christ’s army after He slaughters them.’

    I also recall something about turning the other cheek, not using violence against enemies, and loving my enemies.

    Comment by interpreted — June 20, 2007 @ 5:22 am | Reply

  29. ‘You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?’
    – Dan Barker, Losing Faith in Faith

    Comment by J. — June 20, 2007 @ 7:31 am | Reply

  30. If this is Christian beliefs, no wonder the US as one of the most ‘God Fearing’ nations on eath is such a mess, what a joke!

    I come from a country that lost most of its Christians to atheism in the last couple of centuries and you know what? WE’RE STILL HERE TO LAUGH AT YOU, yay😀

    Comment by Esqoo — June 20, 2007 @ 8:52 am | Reply

  31. “I also recall something about turning the other cheek, not using violence against enemies, and loving my enemies.”

    What about Matthew 26:53, where Jesus talks about his army of angels that he could have used to smash his enemies?

    Comment by DPS — June 20, 2007 @ 9:16 am | Reply

  32. “I also recall something about turning the other cheek, not using violence against enemies, and loving my enemies.”

    Am I taking about me gutting godless Atheist scum, even though they richly deserve it??? No! I am witnessing that Jesus, when He returns, promises us in Revelations that He Himself will cut down all the God hating trash of the world along with the Anti-Christ, raise them from the dead, judge them and then toss them into Hell to burn for all eternity. Now as a Christian you must agree with me that atheists are utter human trash, capable of only the must disgusting things. After all God Himself is the only source of virtue and those atheist dirt bags have spurned His unlimited love.

    As for myself, as a good Christian I love the filth wallowing atheist scum, even though I hate their sin. That’s all I am saying.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — June 20, 2007 @ 9:22 am | Reply

  33. And then quite specifically doesn’t use, instead peacefully handing himself over. Also, he quite specifically tells us to be peaceful, in, eg, Matthew 5:38-48

    ’38″You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’
    39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
    40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.
    41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.
    42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
    43″You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[c] and hate your enemy.’
    44But I tell you: Love your enemies[d] and pray for those who persecute you,
    45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
    46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
    47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?
    48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.’

    Comment by interpreted — June 20, 2007 @ 9:25 am | Reply

  34. ‘as a good Christian I love the filth wallowing atheist scum,’

    Your words betray you.

    ‘Jesus, when He returns, promises us in Revelations that He Himself will cut down all the God hating trash of the world along with the Anti-Christ, raise them from the dead, judge them and then toss them into Hell to burn for all eternity.’

    Also, who are you to presume what God will do? Paul says that we all fall short of God’s standards – it is all, ultimately, up to him.

    Comment by interpreted — June 20, 2007 @ 9:26 am | Reply

  35. “Your words betray you.”

    What? I do love the hellbound trash like Jesus wants me to! I turn the other check when those atheists mock me, call me awful things when I witness to them or when they lie to the judge about me. I pray to God every day they embrace Christ like I have and Jesus won’t have to have them broiled like a French fry in Hell.

    “Also, who are you to presume what God will do? Paul says that we all fall short of God’s standards – it is all, ultimately, up to him”

    I presume nothing, I am just witnessing what Jesus tells us in Revelations. Jesus is very clear about what is going to happen to those who opposes Him, those don’t repent and who stand against our Loving Savior are going to get it threw the guts from Him when He returns.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — June 20, 2007 @ 10:50 am | Reply

  36. Matthew 10:34:
    Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

    Luke 22:36
    He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

    Revelation 19:11
    And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

    Comment by carsick — June 20, 2007 @ 11:16 am | Reply

  37. Though I must admit that Luke 22:36 may have actually been a message to the Jews recommending they get into retail.

    Comment by carsick — June 20, 2007 @ 2:25 pm | Reply

  38. “Though I must admit that Luke 22:36 may have actually been a message to the Jews recommending they get into retail.”

    Interesting point. You could be right since we all know Jesus created the Free Market.

    Comment by BJ Tabor — June 20, 2007 @ 4:12 pm | Reply

  39. “And then quite specifically doesn’t use, instead peacefully handing himself over.”

    But not because it was wrong. Because in order to fulfill scripture He had to be arrested and killed. Look at what He says:

    “53Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?

    54But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?”

    Comment by DPS — June 20, 2007 @ 4:35 pm | Reply

  40. I am just witnessing what Jesus tells us in Revelations.

    You’re witnessing it? In this moment? Brothers, sisters, bow down! Wwe have a true prophet in our midst! He is seeing the end times with his own eyes, even in the flesh, now!

    Truly, the campaign for America’s future is greatly blessed to have such a one among us. Brother, what do you see? What will the anti-Christ look like, that I may know him when I see him?

    Comment by Believer — June 21, 2007 @ 8:38 am | Reply

  41. “I also recall something about turning the other cheek, not using violence against enemies, and loving my enemies.”

    He also drove the money-changers out of the Temple. Clearly, Jesus wasn’t above using a little violence when it was called for.

    “I come from a country that lost most of its Christians to atheism in the last couple of centuries and you know what? WE’RE STILL HERE TO LAUGH AT YOU, yay”

    Sweden? We laugh at you, too. Worship your ice-gods and your rock-gods all you want, the bottom line is you still freeze to death 10 months of the year.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 21, 2007 @ 9:11 am | Reply

  42. SO 1991 was just before Katrina? LOL.

    This actually shows that people don´t like it when somebody is making politic games with their believes. And that they´re smart enough to see through such petty attempts of people like GW Bush to present themselves as some kinda saviour. That´s why they prefer to change to Atheism. Protest.

    “Please, Lord, smite these heathens and sodomites and welfare queens and organic farmers and wizards. Smite them, and smite them again, and keep on smiting them, for as long as it takes. There are some commenters on this blog who really, really need a good, hard smiting, but since you know who they are and they know who they are, I won’t name them.”

    The closest HE came to smiting me was a miss by half a mile. God seriously needs to learn aiming before getting into that smiting business.

    Comment by PG — June 22, 2007 @ 3:54 pm | Reply

  43. Just to clarify our finding:
    The fraction of atheists did NOT increase significantly in the 1990s.
    The number of unchurched believers did.
    -Mike Hout
    UC-Berkeley

    Comment by Mike Hout — September 4, 2007 @ 3:43 pm | Reply

  44. Thanks for the clarification.

    Comment by Psycheout — September 4, 2007 @ 4:16 pm | Reply

  45. It’s comforting to know that there weren’t any hurricanes before 1991.

    It’s comforting to know that there aren’t any homosexuals in San Francisco, Los Angeles or New York, because Katrina didn’t hit there.

    It’s comforting to know that hurrricanes keep hitting the South/Bible Belt because it just proves that Christians are mostly hypocrites and God truly hates them. It also explains the tornados in the Midwest.

    Comment by Brain — October 11, 2007 @ 4:04 pm | Reply

  46. This is most possibly the biggest pile of brainless babble I have ever read. Some of the most peaceful, highly developed countries in the world also happen to be the most secular. Secularism represents only one aspect of social and ethical liberalism such as Freedom of Speech, Universal Emancipation, Freedom of Religion, participatory government and equal rights for all human beings, regardless of gender, religion or sexual preference. Radical Christianity, like its Islamic cousin, is one of the greatest evils fabricated by homo Sapiens – ranking alongside the, equally irrational, radical Communist Atheism of Stalin – and threatens to destroy much of the precious social, political and technological progress of Europe and America, thus far. American radical Christians and vulgar minded Conservatives have butchered your Country’s foreign relations; by turning a once great, noble and beautiful nation into the laughing stock of Europe – not to mention the terrifying hatred now associated with your President’s name, throughout the Middle East and developing world.

    I implore you to remember that Secularism is not Atheism. I am Atheist, I am also a Secularist. You have every right, in a Secular State – like the USA – to disagree with my beliefs, as I do yours; the important similarity is that we are (I hope) both rational, intelligent, ethical and loving creatures, willing to set aside our differences for the good of the peace and prosperity of this planet. An Atheist State would be equally as evil as a Religious State, and Secularism is vehemently opposed to both. Secularism merely represents absolute Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Conscience, stating that personal beliefs should have no say on universal ethics or politics, and are just that. Personal.

    I am a cultural Christian, in the sense that I am heavily influenced by Christian Ethics – curiously, these are largely independent of the Bible – but see the idea of God as, at best, being a very poor and childish explanation of the Universe as it currently exists and, at worst, a virulently persistent meme that only serves to corrode Humanity’s capacity for curiosity, intellectual integrity and rational thought. Of course, being a Scientist, I make these decisions by applying the Scientific Method to my personal beliefs, preferring, as much as humanly possible, to believe nothing that is not founded in reality as revealed by empirical evidence. These, of course, are certainly not the only criteria to select your belief system by; tradition, moral guidance, sense of belonging and comfort are all legitimate reasons to choose God, but please, for the sake of goodness and truth, remember that many of us do not need Religion to live loving, ethical and intellectually fulfilling lives.

    Comment by Mark — June 1, 2008 @ 4:22 am | Reply

  47. “That 14% atheists an’t going to look so cool when they are lying dead in the mud with the rest of the Anti-Christ’s army. I am just saying the atheists need to stop hating and learn to love their Savior like He loves them before they are so much crow bait.”

    Pffft!

    The Atheist’s Wager:

    ‘Instead, my wager is that if there is a god, and it is a just god, then living a just and moral life will be acknowledged regardless of ones beliefs. If there exists an unjust or immoral god, then I could never satisfy both my conscience and such a god. My wager is that if the Christians are right about god being just and all-knowing and all-loving, I will be rewarded if I act in morally sound, justified ways.

    I don’t know if there is a god. To me, the idea of a god, or even of an afterlife pales in importance to what we experience everyday. Life. Life is the only thing that I “know” I have and when that is gone, I doubt I’ll be around to care, however, others will. I must live my life as I please, and since I believe I will only ever get one chance at it, I want to live it in the best manner that I can and help others do the same.’

    I don’t recall suffering before I came into existence and there is absolutely no rational, empirical reason to suppose that there is any sort of supernatural afterlife; hence, there really is no reason for a free-thinking, level headed and logical being to fear an afterlife of suffering. This one life that we have is already unimaginably beautiful and fortunate as it is, I truly do not understand why so many of us must persist in being so sickeningly selfish, as to demand even more than we currently enjoy. Anyone that is familiar with Quantum Mechanics, with Evolution, with Psychology and the Philosophy of Mind will know that the Universe as revealed by Science is far more wonderful and awe-inspiring than that of the Bible; that it really is more queer than we can possibly suppose, more breathtakingly complicated than any Human religion has so far been capable of fathoming and, I dare say, a Creator of such a universe would be utterly beyond comprehension of our humble minds and therefor really not worth the worry😛

    Stop whining about the bloody Bible for a minute, cease your intolerable hatred of any beliefs apart from your own, and go out and actually experience this staggeringly beautiful Universe of ours, and the fascinating diversity of wildlife, beliefs and cultures surrounding you. Loosen up, live life and chill out😉

    Comment by Mark — June 1, 2008 @ 4:51 am | Reply

  48. Oops, sorry about the rants :#(

    Please feel more than welcome to challenge me on any of points😀 Until then, back to my revision, I suppose😦

    Comment by Mark — June 1, 2008 @ 4:54 am | Reply

  49. Apologies if anything I have said has come across as rude or offensive, it wasn’t intended as such. However, I would be very grateful, for the sake of rational debate, if you could attempt to refute any points I have made with which you disagree, rather than moderating them🙂 I welcome criticism and also welcome the opportunity to learn a bit more about the reasons behind your beliefs and political ideology.

    Comment by Mark — June 1, 2008 @ 5:09 am | Reply


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