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June 16, 2007

The World is Flat

Filed under: Sam Brownback,Science — Sisyphus @ 5:21 am

I’ve learned a lot working on this blog.  Certain realities which I used to take for granted, which “science” had handed down to me from time immemorial, I have conclusively determined as fraudulent. Modern pseudoscience is an imposing edifice, but once you examine it closely, small cracks in the structure are readily observable. These cracks are in the very foundations of the structure. Pry at them too thoroughly, and you will soon discover that what once seemed to you a solid castle of facts was little more than a house of cards, cards that are now tumbling down to reveal the Truth they previously obscured.

In an earlier post in which I categorically disproved the time-honored distortion of Heliocentrism, astute readers informed me of the Scriptural evidence that the world is, in fact, not round. Naturally, this piqued my interest, since a strict and literal reading of the Holy Bible is the only correct and proper method of doing so. If one is not prepared to accept the entirety of the Word of God as Truth, one should prepare for damnation. Not only is that good moral advice, that is good science.

A ready perusal of the Bible uncovers numerous quotes like the following:

“Who shakes the earth out of its place, And its pillars tremble;” [Job 9:6]

“And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.” [Revelation 7:1]

Clearly, the Bible states that the world has corners. But how can a sphere have corners?

How could a flat Earth exist? Too many people have gone around the world for it to be dismissed as a government hoax. Fortunately, when my research uncovered the Flat Earth Society website, the question was resolved. Their logo is a chart of our planet. The world is circular, not spherical. The circumference of this circle runs along the Antarctic continent, roughly a million miles long. The center of this circle is the North Pole.

The depth of this circle is unclear to me, as is the cause of earthquakes. Perhaps those are, indeed, caused by some form of plate tectonics (assuming the Earth is 20 miles or so deep before Hell begins); perhaps the tumult and riot of the Inferno causes them, as souls in pain howl and bang and try to escape to the land of the living.

Clearly, my researches into the Flat Earth Society website are incomplete. Many of the questions my friends in the pseudoscientific camp will ask find ready answers there. To quote but one example:

Water. Regardless of which train of thought you follow, it covers over seventy-five percent of our planet’s surface. And the atmosphere, also a fluid, covers the entire surface. The difference is why. While flat-Earthers know that the ocean is really just a large bowl, (with great sheets of ice around the edges to hold the ocean back), and the atmosphere is contained by a large dome, the backwards “round-Earth” way of thinking would have you believe that all those trillions of gallons of water and air just “stick” to the planet’s surface.

Conventional thinking would suggest that the water would just run down the sides of the Earth (to use the analogy again, like droplets running down the sides of a beach ball) and fall into outer space, while the air would dissipate. Using the earlier mentioned idea of “gravitational charge” gives some credibility to the theory. If the fluids were static, then exposure to the gravitational field for a long enough period of time would allow their molecules to align themselves with and be pulled in by the field.

But fluids are not static, especially not in the atmosphere and oceans. Great ocean currents run both at the surface and deep below, carrying water across huge basins, keeping the solution far from stagnant. Jet streams of air travel at hundreds of miles per hour through the atmosphere. And windblown rainclouds carry vast quantities of evaporated seawater across miles of ground, releasing their load far from its starting point. Water or air that (according to “round-Earth” theory) starts on one side of the planet could end up completely on the other side in a matter of only a few days. With all this turbulence and motion, if the world were round, the oceans should all fall “down” into the sky, leaving the planet dry and barren, and the atmosphere would simply float away. Why, just look at the moon. It is round, like a ball, and yet it has no atmosphere at all.

Other evidence exists, if one looks carefully. For example, here is a website offering “satellite” imagery (in actuality, images photographed using images reflected off the watery ether that surrounds our world; or, at best, waterproof cameras inserted into the edge of that ether). Note the name of the website: “Flat Earth Images.” Clearly a believer in Truth in advertising.

Another example is Tom Friedman. Although a Leftist, he acknowledged the truth of the Flat Earth position when he published a book titled, “The World is Flat.” I have not read this book, but I understand that its main subject is how God’s gift of technology has helped Man to see the fundamental flatness of Creation; mountains and valleys exist, yes, but the world is a disk, and it, like computers and automobiles, is a gift of God. Tom Friedman is the only leftist I know of to publicly state these truths; to my way of thinking, if he could be converted, anyone could.

Armed with this newfound knowledge, and with a zealous desire to show others the correct way of thinking, I attempted to convey my doubts to others. I called the false teachings of modern pseudoscience into question at every turn.

Reaction has been mixed, ranging from widespread agreement amongst those willing to accept the Truth of Christianity to widespread disdain amongst the Atheists, Darwinists, and secularist Islamists constituting a majority of the modern Democrat party. Why these “reality-based” types are unable to question their assumptions is beyond me. None of them have ever been to Antarctica, or to outer space; none of them invented toaster ovens or refrigerators. Yet they all claim to be experts on every subject, although a closer scrutiny reveals their only true expertise to lie in the rubbish heap known as “science.” From DNA cloning to Russian space stations, science produces the worst of lies and sins. Yet these people embrace it, and try to use it as a cudgel with which to wallop the God-fearing among us.

Nothing that they say or do can change the Truth one jot or one tittle, however. The world is flat, my friends. God has made it thus, and Man cannot unmake it.

What has any of this to do with the Brownback campaign, you ask? President Brownback will control our education department. Unless Brownback wins the election, and radically alters America’s course in favor of Christianity, Justice, and Truth, millions of children will continue to learn the lies and fallacies of the left: that the world is round; that scientists invent things without God’s guiding Grace; that the Earth orbits the Sun; that their grandparents are monkeys, their great-grandparents were rats, their great-great-grandparents were fish, and their great-great-great-grandparents were pond scum. Some among us are truly bungled, botched, and bothersome; but one must have faith that Hope will see us through, and Truth will find a way. I, for one, am unshakeable in my convictions: The Bible is Truth, God has not forsaken America, and He will ensure that we remain a Christian country by choosing Brownback as His chief servant.

God bless America, and God keep the world flat, free, and beautiful.

65 Comments »

  1. “The Bible is Truth, God has not forsaken America, and He will ensure that we remain a Christian country by choosing Brownback as His chief servant.

    God bless America, and God keep the world flat, free, and beautiful.”

    AMEN! Brother Sisyphus, are you sure you haven’t received the calling from the Lord? You would make such a powerful minister. Truth and morality flows from your lips like the water from the River Jordon did flow across our Lord Jesus Christ and Savior when he was submerged.

    I feel a spiritual revival coming to glorious flat earth and all the HELLiocentrics in the world can’t stop it! Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.” AMEN!

    Sam Brownback today, tomorrow, in 2008 and again in 2012!

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 16, 2007 @ 6:07 am | Reply

  2. “In an earlier post in which I categorically disproved the time-honored distortion of Heliocentrism,”

    Without presenting any credible evidence and making a foll out of myself…

    “Naturally, this piqued my interest, since a strict and literal reading of the Holy Bible is the only correct and proper method of doing so. If one is not prepared to accept the entirety of the Word of God as Truth, one should prepare for damnation. Not only is that good moral advice, that is good science.”

    Good science doesn´t equal using data from one source only…
    Oh, and weren´t you trying to interpret the bible in one of the last article´s comments? HERETIC!

    “Clearly, the Bible states that the world has corners. But how can a sphere have corners?”

    How can a disk, as you propose it to be, have corners?

    “The world is circular, not spherical. The circumference of this circle runs along the Antarctic continent, roughly a million miles long. The center of this circle is the North Pole.”

    Funny. Why have those people that hiked to the South Pole never seen the edge, then?

    “Water. Regardless of which train of thought you follow, it covers over seventy-five percent of our planet’s surface. And the atmosphere, also a fluid, covers the entire surface. The difference is why. While flat-Earthers know that the ocean is really just a large bowl, (with great sheets of ice around the edges to hold the ocean back), and the atmosphere is contained by a large dome, the backwards “round-Earth” way of thinking would have you believe that all those trillions of gallons of water and air just “stick” to the planet’s surface.”

    Giving the way gravity works, it´s actually quite realistc.
    PS: Sheets of ice won´t work alone. Ice swims. And what is that “dome” made of, I wonder. Glass?

    “But fluids are not static, especially not in the atmosphere and oceans. Great ocean currents run both at the surface and deep below, carrying water across huge basins, keeping the solution far from stagnant. Jet streams of air travel at hundreds of miles per hour through the atmosphere. And windblown rainclouds carry vast quantities of evaporated seawater across miles of ground, releasing their load far from its starting point. Water or air that (according to “round-Earth” theory) starts on one side of the planet could end up completely on the other side in a matter of only a few days. With all this turbulence and motion, if the world were round, the oceans should all fall “down” into the sky, leaving the planet dry and barren, and the atmosphere would simply float away. Why, just look at the moon. It is round, like a ball, and yet it has no atmosphere at all.”

    There has been water found on the moon. And it would not fall “down” as outside of earth´s gravitational field, there is no “down. It would perhaps “fall” into the direction of the stronges tgravitational pull. That is, the sun.

    “Other evidence exists, if one looks carefully. For example, here is a website offering “satellite” imagery (in actuality, images photographed using images reflected off the watery ether that surrounds our world; or, at best, waterproof cameras inserted into the edge of that ether). Note the name of the website: “Flat Earth Images.” Clearly a believer in Truth in advertising.”

    Or they mean that the images are flat and not 3D.

    Unfortunately, Mr. Friedman´s book is about economics and globalisation, not about geography. The title is a mere eye-catch an dhe never claims that the world is really flat.

    “Why these “reality-based” types are unable to question their assumptions is beyond me.”

    As it is beyond any sane man´s mind why you´re unable to even try to test your theories and instead proclaim them true and everything else false, regardless what the evidence says. That´s called denying reality. But hey, dream on, the world needs it´s whackos.

    PS: You´d have to put another 1000 or so “great” before those grandfathers.

    “Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.” AMEN!”

    There have been events that “shook the earth” as one could say. And of course earthquakes.

    Comment by PG — June 16, 2007 @ 7:39 am | Reply

  3. Dear PG,

    I suppose you are going to try and tell us that it wasn’t the mighty hand of God shaking things up but rather “plate tectonics” or some other LIEberal nonsense. Well, I have news for you it is God and only God that makes things happen. Not some other scientific hooey-pooey that cause these alleged changes in your “lithosphere”.

    I hope and pray that when the Rapture comes and GOD opens HELL wide up, that when you’re swallowed up for all eternity, you’ll remember all of those things you learned in “Earth Physics” class. THOSE lies will be what landed you in Satan’s hot seat.

    Praying that people will wake up before it’s too late.

    Comment by baptistsforbrown2008 — June 16, 2007 @ 7:52 am | Reply

  4. “I suppose you are going to try and tell us that it wasn’t the mighty hand of God shaking things up but rather “plate tectonics” or some other LIEberal nonsense. Well, I have news for you it is God and only God that makes things happen. Not some other scientific hooey-pooey that cause these alleged changes in your “lithosphere”. ”

    Well, if god is doing everything, I wonder why he always torments “his chosen country”, the USA with things like Tornado Alley being located in the bible belt, the outbreak of Mount St. Helens, Hurricanes etc.

    “I hope and pray that when the Rapture comes and GOD opens HELL wide up, that when you’re swallowed up for all eternity, you’ll remember all of those things you learned in “Earth Physics” class. THOSE lies will be what landed you in Satan’s hot seat.”

    You see, I ´d not give such threats as hell any credit. Especially if one minds the motto of my branch of service.

    Panzergrenadiere sterben nicht, sie fahren nur zur Hölle und formieren sich neu!

    PS: Any god using your measurements to condem people to hell would be a complete jerk anyway and not worth any worship or belief from me.

    (And there goes the question: If god wants us to behave the way he wants to, why didn´t he create us that way. Or did he make some mistakes?)

    Comment by PG — June 16, 2007 @ 8:19 am | Reply

  5. Well, your branch of service is just UN-American. When Sam Brownback is elected President he will make English the OFFICIAL and ONLY language. You put that in your little German pipe and smoke it.

    America’s Armed forces are GODLY because we are fighting a Holy War. Our troops march for the righteous. The only ones marching into hell to re-group will be communist LIEberals like you.

    I rebuke you, Heathen, in the name of Jesus Christ!

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 16, 2007 @ 8:45 am | Reply

  6. “Well, your branch of service is just UN-American. When Sam Brownback is elected President he will make English the OFFICIAL and ONLY language. You put that in your little German pipe and smoke it. ”

    Of course it´s unamerican, it´s the GERMAN army after all. Panzergrenadiere are Armored Infantry btw. Afaik, the US Army is using such units, too.
    And of course our service language is german and will be stay to be german. Brownback´s words aren´t worth a damn here, even if he were to win the election.

    “America’s Armed forces are GODLY because we are fighting a Holy War. Our troops march for the righteous. The only ones marching into hell to re-group will be communist LIEberals like you. ”

    And I thought you´d gonna call me a nazi. Well, one learns something new every day. And well, your troops are about as righteous as my toenails. War is not and will never be righteous. Especially not an agressive war like Iraq.

    Comment by PG — June 16, 2007 @ 8:50 am | Reply

  7. Why would a self-professed German be trolling a Christian, Republican, AMERICAN blog? You are either here to cause trouble or because you are just jealous of us here in America while you waste away in Blutwurst land.

    Here is an ALL AMERICAN proverb for you: “An arrogant bug is a German cocky roach” I think says it all.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 16, 2007 @ 9:05 am | Reply

  8. PG,

    Well, we know you’re going to H-E-L-L. I’m betting that you won’t regroup there, though. You’ll be too busy having your nipples tortured by devils.

    Comment by DPS — June 16, 2007 @ 9:10 am | Reply

  9. “Why would a self-professed German be trolling a Christian, Republican, AMERICAN blog? You are either here to cause trouble or because you are just jealous of us here in America while you waste away in Blutwurst land. ”

    Or I can´t believe that there are really such morons on this planet and make fun of you… Although, you´re not as funny as Shelley the Repblican.

    “Here is an ALL AMERICAN proverb for you: “An arrogant bug is a German cocky roach” I think says it all.”

    Do I have to understand that?

    Comment by PG — June 16, 2007 @ 9:16 am | Reply

  10. AMEN, DPS! I was just praying for someone Godly to show up and help rebuke that Godless Sackratten and here you are. The Lord works in mysterious ways!

    I sure hope Sisyphus gets here soon. His blog is being over-run with heathens, communists, foreigners, and DEMONcrats this morning.

    Father Lord, won’t you come quickly?

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 16, 2007 @ 9:17 am | Reply

  11. PG, talk to the praying hand cause the head isn’t listening to you anymore.

    Comment by Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett — June 16, 2007 @ 9:19 am | Reply

  12. The World is Flat
    >Explain why ships disappear over the horizon.
    I have conclusively determined as fraudulent.
    >Explain.
    Modern pseudoscience is an imposing edifice, but once you examine it closely, small cracks in the structure are readily observable.
    >Look up the definition of pseudoscience in the OED.
    Pry at them too thoroughly, and you will soon discover that what once seemed to you a solid castle of facts was little more than a house of cards, cards that are now tumbling down to reveal the Truth they previously obscured.
    >Explain.
    In an earlier post in which I categorically disproved the time-honored distortion of Heliocentrism,
    >You actually didn’t explain many of the objections.
    If one is not prepared to accept the entirety of the Word of God as Truth, one should prepare for damnation.
    >Appeal to consequences.
    Not only is that good moral advice, that is good science.
    >No, that’s just your opinion.
    atmosphere is contained by a large dome, the backwards “round-Earth” way of thinking would have you believe that all those trillions of gallons of water and air just “stick” to the planet’s surface.
    >And they do. And if the Earth was shaped like a bowl, then your Aristotelian logic would dictate that the water would well up at the bottom.
    Conventional thinking would suggest that the water would just run down the sides of the Earth (to use the analogy again, like droplets running down the sides of a beach ball) and fall into outer space
    >False analogy. On a beach ball, the Earth’s pull is affecting the grains of sand. On the scientific model, the earth is pulling the sand grains towards it from its sheer mass.
    Using the earlier mentioned idea of “gravitational charge” gives some credibility to the theory. If the fluids were static, then exposure to the gravitational field for a long enough period of time would allow their molecules to align themselves with and be pulled in by the field.
    >Give a mathematical equation for this so-called charge.
    Water or air that (according to “round-Earth” theory) starts on one side of the planet could end up completely on the other side in a matter of only a few days. With all this turbulence and motion, if the world were round, the oceans should all fall “down” into the sky, leaving the planet dry and barren, and the atmosphere would simply float away. Why, just look at the moon. It is round, like a ball, and yet it has no atmosphere at all.
    >False analogy AND straw man. The reason that the atmosphere stays on earth is the fact that the earth is so big that it keeps the atmosphere on the earth. Look a Venus. It has an atmosphere.(and if you want a false analogy, look at Saturn. It is made of gas, yet it is round).
    Another example is Tom Friedman. Although a Leftist, he acknowledged the truth of the Flat Earth position when he published a book titled, “The World is Flat.” I have not read this book, but I understand that its main subject is how God’s gift of technology has helped Man to see the fundamental flatness of Creation; mountains and valleys exist, yes, but the world is a disk, and it, like computers and automobiles, is a gift of God. Tom Friedman is the only leftist I know of to publicly state these truths; to my way of thinking, if he could be converted, anyone could.
    >Another example of distortion. He is talking about the connectedness of the world and globalization. Read his book.
    with a zealous desire
    >Definitely.
    Armed with this newfound knowledge, and with a zealous desire to show others the correct way of thinking, I attempted to convey my doubts to others. I called the false teachings of modern pseudoscience into question at every turn.
    >Yes. Force your dogma on others. First prove they are “false teachings” and look up the definition of “pseudoscience” in the OED.
    Atheists, Darwinists, and secularist Islamists constituting a majority of the modern Democrat party.
    >No Muslim (not “Islamist”) is secular.
    Why these “reality-based” types are unable to question their assumptions is beyond me. None of them have ever been to Antarctica, or to outer space;
    >I have been to Antarctica.
    …none of them invented toaster ovens or refrigerators.
    >No, but scientists have, and they wrote articles disagreeing with you.
    … Yet they all claim to be experts on every subject,
    >No, we don’t.
    … although a closer scrutiny reveals their only true expertise to lie in the rubbish heap known as “science.”
    >Do you think people should ban “Dihydrogen Monoxide”?
    … From DNA cloning to Russian space stations, science produces the worst of lies and sins.
    >What lies, what sins? By the way, there is no such thing as “DNA cloning”. If you mean you hate DNA replication, you mean that you hate growing. Many scientists also dislike cloning. All humans (except Hitler, etc.) have ethics. Yet these people embrace it, and try to use it as a cudgel with which to wallop the God-fearing among us.
    >Nope. Just among the zealots who try to force their ideas on others.
    Nothing that they say or do can change the Truth one jot or one tittle, however. The world is flat, my friends. God has made it thus, and Man cannot unmake it.
    >Who are you to tell God what to do?
    that their grandparents are monkeys, their great-grandparents were rats, their great-great-grandparents were fish,
    >Straw man.

    Comments:
    3: I suppose you are going to try and tell us that it wasn’t the mighty hand of God shaking things up but rather “plate tectonics” or some other LIEberal nonsense. Well, I have news for you it is God and only God that makes things happen. Not some other scientific hooey-pooey that cause these alleged changes in your “lithosphere”.
    >PROVE IT.
    “I hope and pray that when the Rapture comes and GOD opens HELL wide up, that when you’re swallowed up for all eternity, you’ll remember all of those things you learned in “Earth Physics” class. THOSE lies will be what landed you in Satan’s hot seat.”
    >You hate people. Hate is a very strong feeling. I wonder what God feels about hate.

    Comment by lietk12 — June 16, 2007 @ 10:11 am | Reply

  13. ‘I suppose you are going to try and tell us that it wasn’t the mighty hand of God shaking things up but rather “plate tectonics” or some other LIEberal nonsense.’

    Thanks for the laughs!

    Comment by J — June 16, 2007 @ 11:51 am | Reply

  14. It’s worth noting that even some left-wing extremists, such as Tom Friedman of the New York Times, now believe that the world is flat.

    Comment by relee — June 16, 2007 @ 1:30 pm | Reply

  15. Here’s the proof that conservapedia can’t be trusted: http://www.conservapedia.com/Blogs_4_Brownback so, Sisy, where are you gonna get your facts from now on?

    Comment by Skeptic — June 16, 2007 @ 2:06 pm | Reply

  16. “AMEN! Brother Sisyphus, are you sure you haven’t received the calling from the Lord? You would make such a powerful minister. Truth and morality flows from your lips like the water from the River Jordon did flow across our Lord Jesus Christ and Savior when he was submerged.”

    Aw, thank you!

    I’d refute PG directly, but you’ve already done too good of a job of it. I feel a little sorry for him, to tell you the truth.

    “so, Sisy, where are you gonna get your facts from now on?”

    Some leftist troll went in and posted that. Once the mistake is noted, it will be quickly corrected.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 16, 2007 @ 3:21 pm | Reply

  17. Hey Syphilis, did you actually try joining the Flat Earth Society? I presume the answer is no as it is a joke web-site.

    Comment by Second Coming — June 16, 2007 @ 3:37 pm | Reply

  18. “It’s worth noting that even some left-wing extremists, such as Tom Friedman of the New York Times, now believe that the world is flat.”

    Actually, he uses this phrase to show how the economic world is becoming flat in the sense that many roadblocks that kept countries lieke China poor are vanishing. He´s talking about globalisation.

    “I’d refute PG directly, but you’ve already done too good of a job of it. I feel a little sorry for him, to tell you the truth.”

    In what case did he refute me? All he did was some straw man arguments and ranting about me not being from the USA. Hardly worth reading, actually.
    His claim that I´m jealous was rather funny, though.
    Comparison Germany – USA:

    USA:
    Better access to guns (I like shooting)
    Some nice tourist atractions
    bigger malls

    Germany:
    Generelly better weather
    Better food (Having Italy so close by helps a lot)
    Less risk to be shot on the open street (less guns in civilian hands)
    Better wages
    Less polluted air
    Less morons running around
    Less crimes
    No war every two-three years
    An actually trustworthy government that respects human rights no matter what
    Better healthcare

    Sorry, Germany clearly wins for me.

    @Mrs. T.D. Gaines-Crockett:
    The term “Sackratten” is not actual any more. But still thanks, you Depp.

    Comment by PG — June 16, 2007 @ 3:45 pm | Reply

  19. “Germany:
    Generelly better weather”

    Ha! Move to San Diego or Hawaii. Or Florida. Or some of the Rockies. Or some of the Northeast, in fact. Many, many parts of America have nicer weather than cold, rainy Europe. If cold and rainy is your thing, we have that, too.

    “Better food (Having Italy so close by helps a lot)”

    Italy doesn’t count, if you’re going to cheat like that we’re next to Mexico and Mexico is way better than Italy.

    Less risk to be shot on the open street (less guns in civilian hands)”

    This only happens in the really, really dangerous cities, like Philadelphia. That place is worse than Baghdad.

    “Better wages”

    Not once they start taxing you guys more to pay for your military more, once we stop helping to protect you.

    “Less polluted air”

    Again, that varies. America is about 30 times the size of Germany. If you live in LA, obviously the air’s no good. If you live in Idaho, the air is 50 times better than the air in Germany.

    “Less morons running around”

    Per capita, I doubt it.

    “Less crimes”

    Alright, I’ll concede that you’ve got us there. I blame the Democrats.

    “No war every two-three years”

    Again, wait a few years. You guys’ll be out rattling sabres soon.

    “An actually trustworthy government that respects human rights no matter what”

    Again, wait a few years…

    “Better healthcare”

    I doubt it. You might have cheaper healthcare, but for quality I doubt the average German hospital beats the average American hospital.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 16, 2007 @ 4:00 pm | Reply

  20. “Ha! Move to San Diego or Hawaii. Or Florida. Or some of the Rockies. Or some of the Northeast, in fact. Many, many parts of America have nicer weather than cold, rainy Europe. If cold and rainy is your thing, we have that, too.”

    Cold and rainy? You´re confusing Germany with England here. And man, don´t try to hide the shadows. I´d rather not be the type for Texas or New Mexico. Or Chicago, there you get rain.

    “Italy doesn’t count, if you’re going to cheat like that we’re next to Mexico and Mexico is way better than Italy.”

    Italian food > Mexican food

    And then, everything called “american food” would originate from somewhere else anyway.

    “This only happens in the really, really dangerous cities, like Philadelphia. That place is worse than Baghdad.”

    More guns, more risk. Easy equation.

    “Not once they start taxing you guys more to pay for your military more, once we stop helping to protect you.”

    Erm, the German military uses approx. 1.3% of our GPD. And has a standing force of 250.000 men + several million reservists. (During the Cold War, it´s strengt was at 500.000 men + reserve.) And we´re surrounded by countries allied with us. Tell me one military power that can stand up to the european NATO countries and is likely to do so.

    “Again, that varies. America is about 30 times the size of Germany. If you live in LA, obviously the air’s no good. If you live in Idaho, the air is 50 times better than the air in Germany.”

    As I´m living something like 50 miles from the Alps, I doubt that I´ll find cleaner air anywhere in the USA.

    “Per capita, I doubt it.”

    I not. Looking into Texas, hell, even the saxons look really intelligent compared to that. Heck, even the prussians are mostly smarter. And for me as a Bavarian, that means something!

    “Again, wait a few years. You guys’ll be out rattling sabres soon.”

    Well, we had no hot war since 1945, actually. That´s quite a record.

    “Alright, I’ll concede that you’ve got us there. I blame the Democrats.”

    You had 8 years to make the situation better. Nothing happened.

    “Again, wait a few years…”

    For what? For the nazis coming back? Not in 1000 years, buddy. We´re finished with that scum.

    “I doubt it. You might have cheaper healthcare, but for quality I doubt the average German hospital beats the average American hospital.”

    Highest quality is equal. But then agains, in the USA, only stinking rich people can enjoy that. Here, everyone can afford the hospital without being broke in an instant. (In that regard, try watching Sicko by Micheal Moore, it´s quite shocking. This time, he even let´s the right-wingers clearly state their opinion without sarcastic comments. Seems like MR. Moore becomes more serious in his style.)

    Comment by PG — June 16, 2007 @ 4:46 pm | Reply

  21. “Cold and rainy? You´re confusing Germany with England here. And man, don´t try to hide the shadows. I´d rather not be the type for Texas or New Mexico. Or Chicago, there you get rain.”

    Plenty of Romans felt that Germany was as cold as a snake’s heart. Anyway, whatever kind of climate you want, you can find it somewhere in America. Unless Germany recently got its old colonies back, I don’t think you can make the same claim.

    “Italian food > Mexican food”

    Obviously, you’ve never eaten Mexican food. Either that, or you’re a fan of eating clams 3 meals a day.

    “More guns, more risk. Easy equation.”

    The risk of terrorism in Germany is greater, then. More Islamists, more risk. Easy equation.

    “As I´m living something like 50 miles from the Alps, I doubt that I´ll find cleaner air anywhere in the USA.”

    Then you’d think wrong. We’ll ignore Alaska for a second, and concentrate on the Rockies. Outside Denver metro and a couple other spots, they’re as clean as it gets. I’d venture to say even your beloved Vermont has mountain air as clean as in the Alps. Well, the Rockies are exponentially nicer.

    Have you ever even been to America, or is all your derogation anecdotal?

    “You had 8 years to make the situation better. Nothing happened.”

    Actually, crime rates dropped. The country is substantially safer. Perhaps if you found out about it from somewhere other than HBO crime shows or Philadelphia news shows, you’d realize this.

    “I not. Looking into Texas, hell, even the saxons look really intelligent compared to that. Heck, even the prussians are mostly smarter. And for me as a Bavarian, that means something!”

    Obviously, you don’t understand what “per capita” means.

    I know a guy from Germany. He’s insane. He likes to take his clothes off and run around town. He’s in and out of jail when he forgets to take his medication. By your anecdotal, disregarding per-capita-ratio standards, I’d have to conclude that 100% of Germans have bipolar disorder. My point is, it makes no sense to disregard the ratios.If 5 people lived in Germany, and one of them was insane, the rate would be much worse than the 1 billion people in China, of whom perhaps 300 million are insane.

    “Highest quality is equal. But then agains, in the USA, only stinking rich people can enjoy that.”

    How would you know?

    “(In that regard, try watching Sicko by Micheal Moore, it´s quite shocking. This time, he even let´s the right-wingers clearly state their opinion without sarcastic comments. Seems like MR. Moore becomes more serious in his style.)”

    No, thank you. 15 minutes of “Bowling for Columbine” was quite enough Michael Moore for one lifetime for me.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 16, 2007 @ 5:40 pm | Reply

  22. “Science” is inherently antithetical to the word of Christ. All those caught practicing the fraudulent religion called “science” should be immediately interned at Gitmo and made subject to enhanced interrogation techniques. We must not let facts, history, reason, common sense, and plain reality upset the white, Christian, male power structure that defines the United States of America. I have no doubt that President Sam Brownback will make this right. The same goes for those who believe that the Constitution is a legitimate document.

    Comment by St. Legalize — June 16, 2007 @ 6:07 pm | Reply

  23. “Plenty of Romans felt that Germany was as cold as a snake’s heart. Anyway, whatever kind of climate you want, you can find it somewhere in America. Unless Germany recently got its old colonies back, I don’t think you can make the same claim.”

    Well, compared to Italy, it is colder. Although, we´re getting a full blown climate change at the moment with one record summer after another. And then, what are the living costs in Florida or California? Because sans them, the only thing USA has and Germany not are deserts.

    “Obviously, you’ve never eaten Mexican food. Either that, or you’re a fan of eating clams 3 meals a day.”

    Eaten it. Pasta is still better.

    “Obviously, you don’t understand what “per capita” means.”

    I do. But seeing that concentration, it´s sure to drop the standard by quite a margin. And I have been to your country and well, I have met more morons here than at home. (Using per capita is rather dífficult, there are no statistics that´d be really useful.)

    “The risk of terrorism in Germany is greater, then. More Islamists, more risk. Easy equation.”

    How many are Islamists and how many are just muslims? Can´t say.

    “If 5 people lived in Germany, and one of them was insane, the rate would be much worse than the 1 billion people in China, of whom perhaps 300 million are insane.”

    Actually not. 1 out of 5 = 20%. 300mil out of one billion = 30%

    “How would you know?”

    Friends in the States. Repords about the healthcare system. Reading from differrent sources.

    “No, thank you. 15 minutes of “Bowling for Columbine” was quite enough Michael Moore for one lifetime for me.”

    Which 15 minutes? Well, I somewhat found it funny when he asked whether it´d not be dangerous to hand out guns in a bank.

    “Actually, crime rates dropped. The country is substantially safer. Perhaps if you found out about it from somewhere other than HBO crime shows or Philadelphia news shows, you’d realize this.”

    FOX doesn´t say anything, either. Nor does CNN. But I´ll take you by your word.

    Comment by PG — June 16, 2007 @ 6:28 pm | Reply

  24. “We must not let facts, history, reason, common sense, and plain reality upset the white, Christian, male power structure that defines the United States of America. I have no doubt that President Sam Brownback will make this right. The same goes for those who believe that the Constitution is a legitimate document.”

    May God bless these United States!

    And then, what are the living costs in Florida or California? Because sans them, the only thing USA has and Germany not are deserts.”

    Depends on where you live. Northern California and Northern Florida are actually quite reasonable, in parts. Georgia is a lot like Florida. Alabama/Mississippi/Louisiana are very nice, except for the occasional hurricane. Then again, Germany gets flooding, too.

    And you forgot Hawaii! Also the American territories, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Samoa, Guam, and other tropical paradises which are quite cheap to live in or visit.

    “How many are Islamists and how many are just muslims? Can´t say.”

    How many Americans own guns? Of them, how many brandish them in a violent or reckless manner in public?

    “Actually not. 1 out of 5 = 20%. 300mil out of one billion = 30%”

    Sorry. Typo. I meant 30 million. Hopefully, 30% of China is not insane.

    “Friends in the States. Repords about the healthcare system. Reading from differrent sources.”

    There are Americans who call you their friend??? 🙂

    “Which 15 minutes? Well, I somewhat found it funny when he asked whether it´d not be dangerous to hand out guns in a bank.”

    The last 15 minutes. I walked in on it. I got to watch him torture a sick old man. That was one of the scummiest things I’ve ever seen. I think my personal politics lurched sharply to the right after I saw that scene.

    “FOX doesn´t say anything, either. Nor does CNN. But I´ll take you by your word.”

    I actually got the statistics online somewhere. Murder rates have been in decline for quite some time now.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 16, 2007 @ 7:10 pm | Reply

  25. Well this just makes perfect sense then. I mean if the earth were truly round, if you were standing anywhere but the north pole, you’d fall off! Wow, you’re a genius Sis.

    Comment by Dave — June 16, 2007 @ 7:47 pm | Reply

  26. Since every comedy act needs a straight man, I’ll bite…

    Hopefully I don’t have to point out the self-contradictory nature of these two quotes from your article:
    “Clearly, the Bible states that the world has corners. But how can a sphere have corners?”
    “The world is circular, not spherical.”

    If antarctica completely surrounds the disc, that means if you travel in any one direction long enough, eventually you’ll be in antarctica. How come airline pilots have never noticed this? In order to get anywhere they would have to fly in a completely different direction compared to our currently accepted map of the world. How can this be explained? Maybe there is a vast conspiracy amongst airline pilots, the shipping industry etc to keep us all in the dark? After all they have managed to keep a secret of the fact that they have no idea how their magnificent flying machines actually work, and that they are in reality driven by tiny angels on treadmills.

    Even your good pal Aristotle realised the earth was a sphere, for a few simple reasons. Have you ever seen a lunar eclipse? You may have noticed that the shadow of the earth on the moon is ALWAYS ROUND, regardless of where the moon is in the sky. If the earth was a disc we would see an elliptical shadow, depending on the position of the sun relative to the earth and moon. Also, when a ship comes over the horizon, you can see the sail above the sea before the body. If the world was really flat, how come I can’t climb a tall building and see all the way to antarctica?

    Comment by Mr Agnostic — June 16, 2007 @ 9:24 pm | Reply

  27. “Depends on where you live. Northern California and Northern Florida are actually quite reasonable, in parts. Georgia is a lot like Florida. Alabama/Mississippi/Louisiana are very nice, except for the occasional hurricane. Then again, Germany gets flooding, too.”

    Northern Germany, aye. We had one (very small) flooding in the last 3 decades here in Bavaria, though. But thanks for the tips. (I had ruled out the Middle West, Tornado Alley is not a place for me.)

    “And you forgot Hawaii! Also the American territories, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Samoa, Guam, and other tropical paradises which are quite cheap to live in or visit.”

    Hm, okay, although I´d not set them in the same basket as the mainland. They´re not even remotely in the same timezone.

    “There are Americans who call you their friend??? :)”

    Have been to your country during a student exchange for half a year. A long time ago. And I´ve got a few dudes I learned to know while they were stationed here in Germany during the Cold War.

    “The last 15 minutes. I walked in on it. I got to watch him torture a sick old man. That was one of the scummiest things I’ve ever seen. I think my personal politics lurched sharply to the right after I saw that scene.”

    You mean the interview with Charlton Heston? How did he torture him?

    Although Moore is somewhat over the edge, I´d have to agree at least partially with him on the gun laws. I mena, for defending your home against burglars and stuff, everything bigger than a pistol is overkill and has the risk of destroying your property and (given that rifles and shotguns can easiyl pierce walls) of unwittingly hitting your own family. And then, a simple course in self-defence techniques might be better. Don´t shoot him, just break some of his bones and let the polica handle the rest.

    Comment by PG — June 17, 2007 @ 4:39 am | Reply

  28. If the Bible says the world is flat, that’s good enough for me. People who say otherwise are the enemies of Jesus.

    Comment by Marcia P. — June 17, 2007 @ 12:33 pm | Reply

  29. “If the Bible says the world is flat, that’s good enough for me. People who say otherwise are the enemies of Jesus.”

    And Pi = 3.?

    The Bible verses you quote are extremely vague and could well have been meant figuratively (powerful language to make sure people understood the power of God)

    http://www.geocentricity.com/astronomy_of_bible/flatearth/doesbibleteach.html a Christian source claiming the Bible says the Earth is spherical!

    Comment by Skeptic — June 17, 2007 @ 12:57 pm | Reply

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  31. 21: Plenty of Romans felt that Germany was as cold as a snake’s heart. Anyway, whatever kind of climate you want, you can find it somewhere in America. Unless Germany recently got its old colonies back, I don’t think you can make the same claim.
    >The Romans you hated.

    Have you ever even been to America, or is all your derogation anecdotal?
    >Yours is.

    22: “Science” is inherently antithetical to the word of Christ. All those caught practicing the fraudulent religion called “science” should be immediately interned at Gitmo and made subject to enhanced interrogation techniques. We must not let facts, history, reason, common sense, and plain reality upset the white, Christian, male power structure that defines the United States of America. I have no doubt that President Sam Brownback will make this right. The same goes for those who believe that the Constitution is a legitimate document.
    >1. Your interrogation techniques would not have been here were it not for science.
    2. Science is NOT a religion.
    3. 1. You’re racist.
    2. You are obviously power-hungry.
    3. The Constitution guarantees that Americans CAN be Christian. How would you feel if everyone had to be a Jehovah’s Witness, etc. against your will?

    29: “If the Bible says the world is flat, that’s good enough for me. People who say otherwise are the enemies of Jesus.”

    And Pi = 3.?
    >Pi as 3.13159 has been hidden inside the Hebrew Bible. And wasn’t there something about the Roman Catholic Inquisition not permitting translations of the Latin Bible? So you know Latin? Translate the sentence “Fatuus es.”

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  33. I have a solution for you to explain earthquakes.

    Loki causes them. His wife is Sigyn, who stayed loyal to him, even when the gods punished him for the death of Balder. He was chained to three large boulders; one under his shoulders, one under his loins and one under his knees. A poisonous snake was placed above his head. The dripping venom that lands on him is caught by Sigyn in a bowl. But every now and then, when the bowl is filled to the brim, she has to leave him to empty it. Then the poison that falls on Loki’s face makes him twist in pain, causing earthquakes.

    I hope that clears things up for you.

    Comment by hoverfrog — June 18, 2007 @ 4:52 am | Reply

  34. “If antarctica completely surrounds the disc, that means if you travel in any one direction long enough, eventually you’ll be in antarctica.”

    Not if you travel in a circle parallel to the circumference. Which is what most people do when they round the world.

    “After all they have managed to keep a secret of the fact that they have no idea how their magnificent flying machines actually work, and that they are in reality driven by tiny angels on treadmills.”

    Angels are electrons. Atomic theory is only half the picture. Angels accomplish every miracle of modern “science.”

    “Even your good pal Aristotle realised the earth was a sphere, for a few simple reasons. Have you ever seen a lunar eclipse? You may have noticed that the shadow of the earth on the moon is ALWAYS ROUND, regardless of where the moon is in the sky. If the earth was a disc we would see an elliptical shadow, depending on the position of the sun relative to the earth and moon.”

    Those are distortions caused by the water in the ether.

    “Also, when a ship comes over the horizon, you can see the sail above the sea before the body. If the world was really flat, how come I can’t climb a tall building and see all the way to antarctica?”

    Because it’s about a million miles away.

    “Loki causes them”

    Loki is a pagan deity, hoverfrog. He’s not real.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 18, 2007 @ 5:06 am | Reply

  35. “Loki is a pagan deity, hoverfrog. He’s not real.”
    How do you explain earthquakes then?

    Comment by hoverfrog — June 18, 2007 @ 6:02 am | Reply

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  37. 34: Angels are electrons. Atomic theory is only half the picture. Angels accomplish every miracle of modern “science.”
    >So protons are Angels with an opposite charge?!?!?!?

    Those are distortions caused by the water in the ether.
    >Since when was it true that water=ether?

    Comment by lietk12 — June 18, 2007 @ 9:51 am | Reply

  38. “Not if you travel in a circle parallel to the circumference. Which is what most people do when they round the world.”

    How could they do if the just follow the compass. Because that a compass is targeted north all the time is a given. And even then, there are plenty of people that have visited the South Pole. Not one has seen the edge of the world.

    “Those are distortions caused by the water in the ether.”

    Could you tell me what keeps this water from landing on our collective heads?

    “Because it’s about a million miles away.”

    Wrong. On a flat earth, your vision would not be limited to any range except in the case that something is between you and the point you want to spot. But even with a 100x magnification, you´ll never see Antarctica from anywhere north of the most southern tip of south america. And even there, I´m not sure.

    Comment by PG — June 18, 2007 @ 10:43 am | Reply

  39. The Lord giveth and The Lord taketh away.

    After word back from WordPress, my bluff has been called. Fellow Christians, I thank you for your time and honest effort in fighting the good fight. Alas, once word spread online and in the press of this parody, it has been most difficult to keep this site going and in check.

    Brownback will win the nomination I am confident, and he’ll do it by sticking to the values that Americans have cherished since our nation’s founding. Heliocentrism is not one of those values. When you see the RINO candidates flocking toward a position, standing your ground and avoiding it is the way to get ahead. That’s why Reagan was a great President, and why Bush has been an even better one; Brownback will excel beyond them both.

    With faith in our hearts and God on our side, decent Americans will prevail over you moonbat scumbags. Thank you to WordPress for hosting the blog, and to you fellow Christians. Vote Brownback.

    May God be with you all.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 18, 2007 @ 10:47 am | Reply

  40. I love the smell of napalm in the morning; smells like victory!

    Comment by Tyler Durden — June 18, 2007 @ 5:45 pm | Reply

  41. “Wrong. On a flat earth, your vision would not be limited to any range except in the case that something is between you and the point you want to spot.”

    That’s not true. Objects can be so distant that they are simply not visible to the naked eye. For instance, I can’t see you right now, because you are so far away.

    Comment by DPS — June 18, 2007 @ 11:56 pm | Reply

  42. DPS: “For instance, I can’t see you right now, because you are so far away.”

    Circular argument. It’s not the distance, it’s the fact that the Earth is spherical – hence the horizon.

    As PG correctly states above: “…even with a 100x magnification…” It’s not that complicated guys, really.

    Comment by Tyler Durden — June 19, 2007 @ 2:35 am | Reply

  43. Yeah! Down with Heliocentrism! When judgment comes, and the four horsemen ride from the East to smite the non-believers, they will hold in their right hands sword of truth and justice. In their left will be the heads of Galileo, Darwin, Einstein, and Jared! No relativity will avail you! Your vile theories of monkeys and men will be trodden down! And those “healthy” subs you hold so dear will be burned by the flames of a TRUE king. The whopper extra value meal!!! Minus the pickles, for they are an abomination unto mankind!!!1!

    Comment by The Lamb — June 20, 2007 @ 2:16 pm | Reply

  44. Is this article a joke? Please tell me you people don’t really believe this… this really scares me. What time period are we in? Grow up!

    You know what annoys me? when you take our scientific arguments and twist them into something absurd: “LOL WAS UR GRANDPA SWINGING FROM TREES LOL”. No, fools, do you understand the concept of “millions of years”? That a thousand thousands if you weren’t su…. oh wait, sorry, I forgot you think the Earth is only 6000 years old.

    You people will be the downfall of the human race, explaining away everything we don’t understand with “God did it.” Science isn’t afraid to accept that we don’t know something, we will admit we have no idea how something happened, unlike you.

    Let me give you the benefit of the doubt, evolution is not proven, it is likely yes, but not proven, so let’s say it is false. Now let’s take a look at the Earth, do you really believe it is flat? Why would we need satellites to bounce signals around the curvature of the earth? By my reckoning, if the Earth was flat, light could travel straight to the destination, anywhere, without needing to bounce off a satellite.

    Also, remember English developed in England, not in America. You are not the centre of the Earth. You are not God’s country, God does not exist, and if he did, he would hate your country for the millions it has killed and the enormous amounts of hate you breed.

    Another argument to answer. What happens to the 9999 other gods people around the world and in history have believed in. Why is yours the right one? explain why you don’t believe in those gods, and there is your reason I don’t believe in yours.

    Use your brain, it evolved for a reason.

    Comment by Josh — June 20, 2007 @ 8:23 pm | Reply

  45. What about all the pictures from space? Are they fake? Odd. I think an astronaut would know more about earth’s shape than a person who believes in book with talking animals and food falling from the sky.

    Comment by J. — June 20, 2007 @ 9:05 pm | Reply

  46. Nice post Josh, good points and decent arguments, however, these guys will simply bat away anything they don’t understand with “goddidit”. And why did god do it? Because “goddidit” etc., etc. And so, you can see where this is heading…

    I suppose, the only thing worse than this being a complete hoax and waste of everybody’s time is if these god-heads actually believe all of this to be true. “Be afraid, be very afraid.”

    Comment by Tyler Durden — June 21, 2007 @ 5:23 am | Reply

  47. “Circular argument. It’s not the distance, it’s the fact that the Earth is spherical – hence the horizon.”

    Nonsense. Football players sometimes can’t see a pass at a mere 100 yards. Baseball players can’t see the ball sometimes. This has to do with those objects being too far away, not with a “spherical” world.

    “Yeah! Down with Heliocentrism! When judgment comes, and the four horsemen ride from the East to smite the non-believers, they will hold in their right hands sword of truth and justice. In their left will be the heads of Galileo, Darwin, Einstein, and Jared! No relativity will avail you! Your vile theories of monkeys and men will be trodden down! And those “healthy” subs you hold so dear will be burned by the flames of a TRUE king. The whopper extra value meal!!! Minus the pickles, for they are an abomination unto mankind!!!1!”

    Amen!

    “Is this article a joke?”

    No.

    “You people will be the downfall of the human race, explaining away everything we don’t understand with “God did it.” Science isn’t afraid to accept that we don’t know something, we will admit we have no idea how something happened, unlike you.”

    If scientists admit they don’t know, perhaps they should open a Bible. It has all the answers.

    “Use your brain, it evolved for a reason.”

    No it didn’t.

    “What about all the pictures from space? Are they fake?”

    Yes.

    “I think an astronaut would know more about earth’s shape than a person who believes in book with talking animals and food falling from the sky.”

    Yes, and that’s why your soul is in danger of Hellfire. You’d rather listen to a professional liar than to God.

    “I suppose, the only thing worse than this being a complete hoax and waste of everybody’s time is if these god-heads actually believe all of this to be true. “Be afraid, be very afraid.”

    If that’s the way you feel, then why do you keep coming around here and disrupting things?

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 21, 2007 @ 5:35 am | Reply

  48. “Nonsense. Football players sometimes can’t see a pass at a mere 100 yards. Baseball players can’t see the ball sometimes. This has to do with those objects being too far away, not with a “spherical” world.”

    Sisyphus, just because you take my point out of context does not mean you’ve proven you’re point.

    And what’s the use of even attempting to discuss the factors involved in viewing distant objects, you’ll just refer, yet again, back to the bible. Circular argument. Try arguing the points on their merits, not on your enclosed and blinkered beliefs.

    “If that’s the way you feel, then why do you keep coming around here and disrupting things?”

    Answered in another post, but just in case you’re having trouble keeping up: Curiosity.

    Comment by Tyler Durden — June 21, 2007 @ 6:10 am | Reply

  49. “…why do you keep coming around here and disrupting things?”

    Define disrupting.

    Comment by Tyler Durden — June 21, 2007 @ 7:44 am | Reply

  50. 49: Define disrupting.
    >From the OED:

    disrupt, v.
    1. intr. To burst asunder. rare.
    1657 TOMLINSON Renou’s Disp. 668 Almonds..may be..agitated..over a slow fire, till the Involucrum disrupt.

    2. trans. To break or burst asunder; to break in pieces, shatter; to separate forcibly.
    1817 SCORESBY in Ann. Reg., Chron. 556 The most formidable fields..become disrupted into a thousand pieces. 1849 Tait’s Mag. XVI. 423 We should..disrupt the bonds. 1879 TOURGEE Fool’s Err. xxiii. 140 The attempt which was made to disrupt the government.
    fig. 1865 Pall Mall G. 1 June 11 His very religious and philosophical thinkings being constantly disrupted by some whim or personal peculiarity.

    Hence dis{sm}rupted, dis{sm}rupting ppl. adjs.
    1819 Blackw. Mag. IV. 397 There is a concord and a harmony in the disrupted fragments of the cliffs. 1849 DANA Geol. ii. (1850) 107 These disrupting and transporting effects. 1876 PAGE Adv. Text-Bk. Geol. iv. 84 When igneous matter forces its way through the stratified rocks..it is termed disrupting. 1876 H. SPENCER Princ. Sociol. (1877) 704 There come into play disrupting influences. 1879 A. B. DAVIDSON Expositor 264 The reunion of the disrupted kingdom.

    Comment by lietk12 — June 21, 2007 @ 5:48 pm | Reply

  51. […] positions that (hopefully) no real believer would take.  B4B recently posted a quasi-Scriptural defense of the flat earth theory that momentarily generated some buzz.  Now they are saying that electrons and protons are actually […]

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  52. Nonsense. Football players sometimes can’t see a pass at a mere 100 yards. Baseball players can’t see the ball sometimes. This has to do with those objects being too far away, not with a “spherical” world.

    No. It has something to do with the size and the speed of the object.

    But even with a scope with unlimited magnification and both of us not moving at all, you couldn´t see me, because I´m on the other side of that big GLOBE earth is.

    Comment by PG — June 22, 2007 @ 3:23 pm | Reply

  53. This is all just a joke, right?

    I mean, I’m pretty sure it has to be, because you would really have to be a complete moron to believe that the Earth is flat.

    Water doesn’t fall into the sky because of a little force called GRAVITY. It’s the same thing that makes the moon round.

    And Antarctica has been so thoroughly explored and measured by this point that there is no way there’s some immense icy border down there long enough to stretch around an entire circular discworld.

    This has to be a joke. BUT if anyone here knows of a New Mexico connection to this subject, and would like to defend it, I write a weekly column of strange New Mexico history and lore, and I would love to write about this. E-mail me anytime with such a connection at antarcticsuburbs@yahoo.com.

    Comment by Mike Smith — June 28, 2007 @ 5:44 pm | Reply

  54. By the way, you say the Bible says the Earth has four corners. And you say that the Earth is a big flat circle.

    Well, here’s a little tidbit for you: circles don’t have corners. They’re round.

    Comment by Mike Smith — June 28, 2007 @ 5:46 pm | Reply

  55. By the way, you say the Bible says the Earth has four corners. And you say that the Earth is a big flat circle.

    “Well, here’s a little tidbit for you: circles don’t have corners. They’re round.”

    It’s Antarctica. If the Bible says it’s square, it’s square. I mention a circle so that you treefrogs will have less trouble understnading me.

    Comment by Sisyphus — July 3, 2007 @ 9:19 am | Reply

  56. Uhh… Then how do satellites and space stations ORBIT the earth?

    Comment by Whichacho — July 6, 2007 @ 10:44 pm | Reply

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  58. This is awesome.

    Comment by iliketolovechristiangirls — August 6, 2007 @ 3:02 pm | Reply

  59. If the world were flat, or if the world were round, it would still have corners. Any schoolboy would know that there are four directions on a compass. Follow the four lines to the center of anything and you will have four lines that meet at 90 degree angles, this is north, south, east, west. What a weak and stupid argument to try to disprove the bible, give me a break.

    Comment by jeff — October 11, 2007 @ 2:46 pm | Reply

  60. Firstly, may I ask that if the world was indeed flat, where wold everything be in relation to it? The world would have to be a limitless plain on which we reside, and we all know that’s not possible.

    There is no such thing as “gravitational charge,” you are obviously thinking of electromagnetic charge, which, in part, keeps the atmosphere where it is. The higher you go into the atmosphere, the more charged particles become. These charged particles are effected by the Earth’s natural electromagnetic field and act to contain the atmosphere.

    If there was a “dome” of atmosphere above the world, and domes are hemispherical, then the atmosphere would be extremely thin about the “center” of Antarctica and completely nonexistent at the “center.”

    Next, in your theory, what keeps the water on the ground? Gravity. Gravity is not a unidirectional force, rather it is omnidirectional. Therefore gravity will also keep the water “stuck” to a spherical object.

    If the Earth is flat, and only Hell exists beneath it, where does the natural electromagnetic field of the Earth come from, if not from the motion of the molten core? If your answer is God, then please give me some concrete proof, not a quote from the Bible (a two-thousand-year-old book, translated and re-written on more than one occasion), or a blind belief.

    Comment by LAZARUS_GUY — January 3, 2009 @ 2:16 pm | Reply

  61. Oh, and as an afterthought, could you explain why we can observe the curvature of the Earth from it’s surface?
    Also, why, if I were to set up a telescope and point it parallel to the ground, would I not be able to see across the ocean?

    Comment by LAZARUS_GUY — January 3, 2009 @ 2:30 pm | Reply

  62. PG:
    This website is full of ‘spinners’, as my Bavarian friend used to say.

    This is a riot! I mean, to bother arguing with you would be like arguing with my three year old. Instead, it’s like lauging at his various foibles. I just can’t take you seriously.

    Oh, and way to be a great Christian and all that. Intolerant buffoons.

    Comment by JS — February 26, 2009 @ 9:55 am | Reply

  63. And there were still so many issues that have not been blogged, yet.

    Comment by Franz Belmore — October 10, 2009 @ 1:06 am | Reply

  64. Doesn’t look flat to me…

    Comment by Timmy — October 26, 2009 @ 12:19 am | Reply

  65. im not trying to be rude but we need to look at the facts and evidence that we can prove, not lines out of a book wirten hundreds of years ago (not saying the bible is fake) but i need to see more physical evidence. now as far as humans know it the world is round, and just like all the other planets they are round now dosent that say somthing?

    Comment by Devon — February 28, 2011 @ 4:41 pm | Reply


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