Blogs 4 Brownback

June 5, 2007

Open Debate Thread

Bottom line is, Brownback is going to win. Of the rest of them, I’m guessing either Ron Paul or Rudy Giuliani is going to come off looking the worst. Second-runner-up in that category will be McCain.

What do you people think?

78 Comments »

  1. I don’t think Huckabee is so bad. He doesn’t believe in evolution, so that’s a start. Also, I like how Tancredo wants to do something about all of these illegals.

    Tommy Thompson is a clown. He can’t even control his bowels during a debate. I would say it’s worth keeping him around for his comedic value, but we already have half a dozen candidates who are only good for their comedic value. Probably half a dozen who can’t control their bowels, either.

    Comment by DPS — June 5, 2007 @ 10:16 am | Reply

  2. Huckabee and Tancredo are at least conservatives. More than you can say for Rudy McRomney, that’s for sure.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 5, 2007 @ 10:48 am | Reply

  3. Sam has been sent here from God to strike down all foreigners, dark people, homosexuals, communists, liberal, women, etc. It is clear that he will win the debate. In fact, I predict that Sam will win the debate before a question is even asked – unless of course CNN (Communist News Network) sandbags him. Go, Sam, Go!!!

    Comment by St. Legalize — June 5, 2007 @ 11:52 am | Reply

  4. Fred Thompson (when he eventually declares) is the most viable conservative candidate. A lot of people that fiscally conservative but more socially liberal (like me) wouldn’t vote for Brownback; but we also wouldn’t vote for McCain, Rudy, or Romney either.

    Ron Paul is just nuts.

    Comment by Ahab — June 5, 2007 @ 11:54 am | Reply

  5. RINO alert @ 4

    Comment by DPS — June 5, 2007 @ 11:57 am | Reply

  6. Sighting confirmed, DPS. Luckily, poaching RINOs is perfectly legal on this blog…

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 5, 2007 @ 12:23 pm | Reply

  7. hahahahaha, oh man – calling me a RINO is so funny it almost hurts. Just because I’m not a creationista and I don’t think that Brownback is a viable candidate, I’m a RINO?

    Comment by Ahab — June 5, 2007 @ 12:26 pm | Reply

  8. “hahahahaha, oh man – calling me a RINO is so funny it almost hurts. Just because I’m not a creationista and I don’t think that Brownback is a viable candidate, I’m a RINO?”

    You’re so RINO your horn gets stuck in the ceiling when you try to trim your nose hairs.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 5, 2007 @ 12:27 pm | Reply

  9. Wait – doesn’t RINO mean “Republican in Name Only” – because if so it’s even more inaccurate.

    I’m not a Republican, I’m a (note the lower case) libertarian.

    Comment by Ahab — June 5, 2007 @ 12:35 pm | Reply

  10. “I’m not a Republican, I’m a (note the lower case) libertarian.”

    “Libertarian” is just a way of writing “liberal” with more letters.

    Comment by DPS — June 5, 2007 @ 12:38 pm | Reply

  11. So is librarian…

    Comment by Skeptic — June 5, 2007 @ 1:07 pm | Reply

  12. Being a “creationist” and believing (read: *knowing*) that Sam Brownback is a viable candidate is simply the test of a true American – not like the fake ones who believe that the Constitution, instead of the Bible, is our true governing document. Because the Bible demands that we torture those who insult Christianity, only an uncivil liberal unfamiliar with the ways of reasoned debate can deny that torture is not permissible; in fact it is compulsory. Besides, it’s been proven that the Constitution is a fraud any way.

    Comment by St. Legalize — June 5, 2007 @ 1:17 pm | Reply

  13. I agree with most of what St. Legalize said. I’m not sure that the Constitution is a fraud, but it really wouldn’t surprise me anymore. Liberals lie about so many other things, why not this? Maybe the Second Amendment is the only original one left in there, although why the lieberals wouldn’t get rid of that one first is beyond me.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 5, 2007 @ 1:22 pm | Reply

  14. Ahab
    The vast majority of Republicans realize deep in their souls that the Bible is our True Constitution. Some just have an inkling but they are forgiven because they are at least on the path to righteousness. Those who deny it are not republicans. They are RINOs. Libertarians don’t even understand the concept. You are not forgiven your willful ignorance.

    Comment by carsick — June 5, 2007 @ 1:38 pm | Reply

  15. DPS @ 10

    And “lib” is just a way of writing “liberal” with fewer letters.

    Feel free to call me a “lib.” Then you can call yourself an alphabetic conservative!

    Comment by Fascinated and Confused — June 5, 2007 @ 2:43 pm | Reply

  16. The Constitution is an obvious fraud to me because it guarantees that which the Bible prohibits, i.e. due process of law, the freedom to be secure in one’s possessions and papers, the freedom to avoid torture, the “freedom” to express thoughts contrary to the strict word of Christ, equality among the races, the right of women to vote, and the “freedom” to NOT be compelled toward the only true ideology – the word of Christ. I suspect that liberals, communists, foreigners, women, people of color, gays, etc. manipulted the document at its inception to include the blasphemy contained therein. The proof of this is the fact that the only necessary freedom necessary to men is the freedom to arm one’s self against the tyrany of a state that presumes to become too secular.

    It is the word of God, and therefore subject to no debate. Only an uncivil, barbarian, unaware of the techniques of reason, can disagree with such self-evident truth.

    Comment by St. Legalize — June 5, 2007 @ 3:14 pm | Reply

  17. St. Legalize
    You make good sense.

    Back to the thread at hand,
    Rudy McRomney doesn’t really concern me. Though it will be fun to watch Rudy try once again to justify allowing murder. McCain has become a gray dwarf of his former self. And Romney? Other than being an insane hallucinating liberal, he always seems to be trying out for a role on Law and Order.
    My one concern is that the other actor is sitting at home cribbing all of Senator Brownback’s best lines and positions and will later use his Hollywood trickery to make people think he believes the script he will later be reading.
    There is only one Senator Brownback and hopefully the devil worshiping CNN will be confused by God so the senator will have a moment to shine and all of America can see his Holy Light.

    Comment by carsick — June 5, 2007 @ 3:47 pm | Reply

  18. >It is the word of God, and therefore subject to no debate.

    Like, totally, dude.

    Comment by Chuckendale Mostum — June 5, 2007 @ 5:07 pm | Reply

  19. McCain has become a gray dwarf of his former self.

    The theory of gray dwarves isn’t all that well accepted, you know.

    Comment by Jeff Davis — June 5, 2007 @ 6:05 pm | Reply

  20. I rarely curse (it’s a sin) so please excuse that I am unable to comment on the CNN coverage and the other candidates in tonight’s debate. Let me just say that some people think murder is acceptable and that America’s existing population is not God’s chosen people. I’m so upset right now I could spit blood. I will pray tonight for God to intervene.

    Comment by carsick — June 5, 2007 @ 8:08 pm | Reply

  21. Brownback will not win if people like Sisyphus keep making fun of him. Yes, I said it, don’t let him fool you. Not that I support YEC fundies as president, I just wanted to state this.

    Comment by Linus — June 5, 2007 @ 8:55 pm | Reply

  22. Ron Paul! For the WIN!

    Go Ron, it’s your birthday…etc.

    “Brownback will not win…”

    First sane thing I’ve seen on this blog.

    Comment by Dave — June 5, 2007 @ 9:08 pm | Reply

  23. Anyone who believes that the Earth is ≈6000 years old shouldn’t have any chance to be the President at all, IMO.

    Comment by Linus — June 5, 2007 @ 9:12 pm | Reply

  24. Oh man, I hope he doesn’t win…

    Comment by Linus — June 5, 2007 @ 9:14 pm | Reply

  25. LOL anyone who is foolish enough to think that Sam didn’t totally dominate this “debate” is probably a weak woman, a “person” of color, a lesbian, an Islamohippy (or their supporters). CNN (Communist non-News Network) did everything it could do to slander God’s chosen land, the United States of America, in this “debate” and STILL Sam won out! It was a performance of Biblical beauty – fitting because of the fraud perpetrated upon God’s chosen land by the false secular document called “the constitution.” Sam is opposed to the rights of women to determine their own fates, the rights of minorities to influence national politics, and the ability of evil foreigners to enter God’s country without taking a religious oath. Anyone who thinks otherwise is uncivil and untrained in reasoned debate LOL! When Sam is selected as teh ruler of America, the gays and the illegals will be promptly shipped off to Gitmo, or (God willing) the new detention state of Vermont, where they will be subject to torture for its own sake, thereby ensuring that white Christian shall reclaim what God has chosen for them – not to mention the hell that awaits the subhuman Islamocommies in Iran. Period.

    Comment by St. Legalize — June 5, 2007 @ 10:20 pm | Reply

  26. Let’s just everyone keep his or her head here. If you keep going on like this, well, you could all end up, well, headless.

    Comment by marc page — June 6, 2007 @ 1:00 am | Reply

  27. While you may want Brownback to win, according to GOP.com, he’s in sixth place, just above Gingrich after this last debate. Romney is outdistancing him by at least 5 points.

    He better hurry up and catch Guilliani before the Primaries, which begin really early this time around.

    Comment by mcclaud — June 6, 2007 @ 1:30 am | Reply

  28. Brownback has it all tied up now. Sometimes when I watch him I just wish he would sneak into my bedroom at night naked and beat me up. There aren’t many men I would trust to take a dump on my chest, but Sam Brownback is easily number 5 or 6 on my list after that debate performance.

    Comment by Lil' Jimmy — June 6, 2007 @ 3:02 am | Reply

  29. “Islamohippy”

    “Islamocommies”

    Pretty original, I have to remember those!

    Comment by Skeptic — June 6, 2007 @ 4:34 am | Reply

  30. Linus and Dave have “moonbat” written all over them.

    Brownback won that debate pretty handily. Breaking Iraq up is the most sensible idea I’ve heard in years.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 6, 2007 @ 4:41 am | Reply

  31. Li’l Jimmy, I think you need to see your priest.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 6, 2007 @ 5:03 am | Reply

  32. The most telling part about the debate was when God displayed his displeasure at Rudy. Did anybody else see that? When he tried to get his secular liberal answer on abortion, lightning struck the building.

    Comment by Harry — June 6, 2007 @ 7:05 am | Reply

  33. Also in retrospect, I think Huckabee lost the Catholic vote by quoting Martin Luther. Big mistake. Not sure what he was thinking there.

    Comment by Harry — June 6, 2007 @ 7:23 am | Reply

  34. I missed that part, Harry. But it would not surprise me. I live in a basement apartment, and I keep telling teh secular liberals who live above ground in my building that their evil ways of socializing with other human beings, going out on dates and having physical relations with each other instead of reading the Bible, will only result in their being struck down by Christ. LOL I only hope I’m not sitting on my couch when he finally decides to smite the building and eliminate the secular liberals who drink whiskey.

    Comment by St. Legalize — June 6, 2007 @ 7:27 am | Reply

  35. Did you know that every day, mexican gays sneak into our country and unplug our brain-dead ladies?

    Comment by clusterfudge — June 6, 2007 @ 9:33 am | Reply

  36. I didn’t see the debate but I heard Senator Brownback had the best tie. Which I knew he would.

    Comment by DPS — June 6, 2007 @ 10:04 am | Reply

  37. “I didn’t see the debate but I heard Senator Brownback had the best tie.”

    Yes. It was a lovely tie. It ought to get him at least 5 percentage points in the primary. Don’t you think? That would bring him to…um, let’s see, 7 percent?

    Comment by DPSbasher — June 6, 2007 @ 11:21 am | Reply

  38. I have a basher!!!

    AWESOME!!!

    Comment by DPS — June 6, 2007 @ 11:33 am | Reply

  39. I recently came across a great writer who I think Senator Brownback should hire to punch up his speeches. His name is Mike Adams and he has some gems like this:

    “Feminism is a minority social movement, whose members murder innocent children in order to obtain sexual gratification.”

    and in defining a liberal:
    “One who suffers from an emotional disorder that renders him, her, or it unable to appreciate humor.”

    He himself has a great sense of humor that he exhibits here:
    “Now that I’ll no longer be Baptist I can have sex standing up without the fear that people will think I’m dancing.”

    Hopefully, God will find a way to let Senator Brownback find this man. Or, at least Mike Adams will go on tour so I may have a chance to hire him to perform for my next birthday party.
    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MikeSAdams

    Comment by carsick — June 6, 2007 @ 11:39 am | Reply

  40. “The most telling part about the debate was when God displayed his displeasure at Rudy. Did anybody else see that? When he tried to get his secular liberal answer on abortion, lightning struck the building.”

    I think it’s pretty clear at this point that a vote for Giuliani is a vote against God. But if you didn’t know that already, a simple bolt of lightning is probably not going to make it clear to you.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 6, 2007 @ 11:44 am | Reply

  41. DPS
    I’m jealous. Your reason and civility have brought you to the heights that the liberals are now afraid of your true and honest words and they are attacking you. You go man.

    Comment by carsick — June 6, 2007 @ 11:45 am | Reply

  42. “DPS I’m jealous.”

    Feel better now?

    Comment by carsickbasher — June 6, 2007 @ 12:06 pm | Reply

  43. DPS is an upstanding American. Liberals are right to fear him.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 6, 2007 @ 12:28 pm | Reply

  44. “DPS is an upstanding American. Liberals are right to fear him.”

    Thank you Senator McCarthy!

    Comment by Sisyphusbasher — June 6, 2007 @ 12:39 pm | Reply

  45. “Thank you Senator McCarthy!”

    You’re welcome, treefrog.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 6, 2007 @ 2:04 pm | Reply

  46. I have a sincere suggestion:

    What if those of us who are at risk to be called “moonbat” take the term and turn it into a badge of honor, in the grand tradition of “geek” and “Yankee Doodle”? Certainly preferable to taking offense to ultracon (parodical or not) ad hom smears.

    Comment by Linus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:39 pm | Reply

  47. I’ll go create a logo, and post it on RationalWiki.

    Comment by Linus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:41 pm | Reply

  48. ‘“DPS I’m jealous.”

    Feel better now?’

    Do you see how quickly their bile rises to the surface, carsick?

    Maybe people wouldn’t hate liberals so much if they were for something instead of being against everything.

    Comment by DPS — June 6, 2007 @ 3:54 pm | Reply

  49. To quote The Oxford American Dictionary:

    liberal |ˈlib(ə)rəl|
    adjective

    1 open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values : they have more liberal views toward marriage and divorce than some people.

    This is a reasonably accurate definition of “liberal”. It also means that Martin Luther, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and perhaps even Jesus were “liberals”.

    Comment by Linus — June 6, 2007 @ 3:59 pm | Reply

  50. Not in the present-day sense, of course, but in the sense of the definition. All I’m saying by this is that liberals are not simply “against everything”, and that liberalism is not necessarily bad.

    Comment by Linus — June 6, 2007 @ 4:00 pm | Reply

  51. I think this is the first time in my life I’ve ever been lumped in with the left wing.

    While a part of me is still hoping that this blog is a work of satire, I’m just not confident in that anymore. The earnest nature of the author seems to confirm my fear that he/she is actually sincere in the delusion that Brownback has a chance of winning, or that we didn’t go to the moon, etc.

    Sort of unrelated – here’s Buzz Aldrin’s reaction to being called a liar about going to the moon.

    Comment by Ahab — June 6, 2007 @ 4:18 pm | Reply

  52. Sam Brownback is a Catholic. I did not know that. Does this change anything?

    Comment by Aikofan — June 6, 2007 @ 4:21 pm | Reply

  53. “here’s Buzz Aldrin’s reaction to being called a liar about going to the moon.”

    Excellent! Go Buzz! He’s 77 years old, and still has it.

    Not only did this guy go to the moon, but he was an outstanding scientist, helping to solve many of the problems associated with orbital rendezvous. The clown he punched didn’t deserve to be in the same room with him.

    Comment by ALyingScientist — June 6, 2007 @ 4:31 pm | Reply

  54. Ahab,

    I thought it was a joke at first, too. But it seems all too serious.

    Comment by ALyingScientist — June 6, 2007 @ 4:47 pm | Reply

  55. I liked the way Buzz Aldrin popped that guy. I don’t think Buzz Aldrin is a liar. I think he was brainwashed.

    Comment by DPS — June 6, 2007 @ 4:57 pm | Reply

  56. I think you are insane.

    Comment by Curious — June 6, 2007 @ 5:08 pm | Reply

  57. What if those of us who are at risk to be called “moonbat” take the term and turn it into a badge of honor, in the grand tradition of “geek” and “Yankee Doodle”?”

    What if you do? At the end of the day, you’ll still be America-hating moonbat treefrogs.

    “Excellent! Go Buzz! He’s 77 years old, and still has it.”

    NASA paid him well for these distortions and lies.

    “I think you are insane.”

    Big talk, coming from someone who believes the world is round.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 6, 2007 @ 5:28 pm | Reply

  58. Sisyphus, you are just too fucking stupid for words!

    Comment by ALyingScientist — June 6, 2007 @ 6:02 pm | Reply

  59. Yup, he’s a parody.

    Comment by Linus — June 6, 2007 @ 6:03 pm | Reply

  60. Even my dog is laughing at you!

    Comment by ALyingScientist — June 6, 2007 @ 6:16 pm | Reply

  61. Brownback’s going to need a new party to nominate him to run; by next summer there won’t be a Republican Party.

    Comment by R.L.Page — June 6, 2007 @ 6:20 pm | Reply

  62. Here’s my first attempt, apologies to D.C. Simpson.

    Comment by Linus — June 6, 2007 @ 6:45 pm | Reply

  63. ALyingScientist @ 59

    “Even my dog is laughing at you!”

    Get high on God, not on drugs.

    Comment by DPS — June 6, 2007 @ 6:59 pm | Reply

  64. But don’t they say that ‘God is drugs?’

    Or something that sounds like that ….

    Comment by R.L.Page — June 6, 2007 @ 7:02 pm | Reply

  65. Of course Brownback will win.

    On the same day, hell will freeze over…

    Comment by PG — June 7, 2007 @ 5:53 am | Reply

  66. “Brownback’s going to need a new party to nominate him to run; by next summer there won’t be a Republican Party.”

    I’d like to see you say that in front of Buzz Aldrin.

    Comment by DPS — June 7, 2007 @ 9:24 am | Reply

  67. Brownback is at what, 1 or 2%? And that’s just the Republican vote.

    He’s gonna need a… miracle, so log off and start praying, fundies!

    Comment by Skeptic — June 7, 2007 @ 11:04 am | Reply

  68. “I’d like to see you say that in front of Buzz Aldrin.”

    He’s not gonna help Brownback, he’s in the “Aerospace Conspiracy”, remember?

    Comment by Skeptic — June 7, 2007 @ 11:38 am | Reply

  69. not like the fake ones [Americans] who believe that the Constitution, instead of the Bible, is our true governing document.

    This blog and its commenters crack me up.

    Comment by The Skepticist — June 7, 2007 @ 12:33 pm | Reply

  70. RE #3 :

    I actually burst out laughing when I read it. Perfect satire.

    After having read a few of your comments I was flabbergasted : Is St Legalize serious ???

    OM*F*G !!!

    Comment by Manboy — June 7, 2007 @ 12:45 pm | Reply

  71. If so, would you like to expand further on :

    “Sam has been sent here from God to strike down all foreigners, dark people, homosexuals, communists, liberal, women, etc.”

    Why should, for an example, women, or foreigners be struck down ?

    I’m a foreigner to you, should I be stricken down simply for not having been born in America ? Is that my sin ? If I were to travel to your country to spend money on vacation, would that be a bad thing in your opinion ?

    Seriously, I’m well happy there’s the Atlantic ocean between you and me…

    Comment by Manboy — June 7, 2007 @ 12:48 pm | Reply

  72. “Sisyphus, you are just too fucking stupid for words!”

    Yet you continue using them. Why?

    “Even my dog is laughing at you!”

    Your dog probably ate your slipper, and he’s choking. Either that, or he’s possessed by Satan. I’m not sure which, but hopefully your veterinarian can decide.

    “Brownback is at what, 1 or 2%? And that’s just the Republican vote.”

    Moonbat polls don’t count. By my reckoning, Brownback has at least 40% of the Republican vote and 35% of the general vote all sewed up. He only has to capitalize on his nomination, and he’ll have the whole election sewed up by January 2008.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 7, 2007 @ 1:18 pm | Reply

  73. ‘“I’d like to see you say that in front of Buzz Aldrin.”

    He’s not gonna help Brownback, he’s in the “Aerospace Conspiracy”, remember?’

    Yeah, but I can still tell he’d want to deck R.L. Page.

    Comment by DPS — June 7, 2007 @ 5:05 pm | Reply

  74. Strange. After the debate, Brownback actually lost ground in the GOP polls.

    Well, he’s got a heck of a long way to go now.

    Comment by mcclaud — June 8, 2007 @ 4:13 am | Reply

  75. “Strange. After the debate, Brownback actually lost ground in the GOP polls.”

    RINO polls are no more accurate than moonbat polls.

    Keep the faith.

    Comment by Sisyphus — June 8, 2007 @ 5:36 am | Reply

  76. Two things: St. Legalize is not serious. Secondly, Brownback is (thankfully) not going to win.

    Comment by Linus — June 8, 2007 @ 1:34 pm | Reply

  77. Amen to that !

    Comment by Manboy — June 8, 2007 @ 3:25 pm | Reply

  78. “Moonbat polls don’t count. By my reckoning, Brownback has at least 40% of the Republican vote and 35% of the general vote all sewed up.”

    That would mean 87.5% was republican.

    Not that it matters when the armies of Islam descend upon you…

    ALLAH UH ACKBAR!!!

    Comment by Skeptic — June 8, 2007 @ 4:41 pm | Reply


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