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April 16, 2007

Rudy Giuliani on Abortion: Get Over It

Filed under: Abortion,Election 2008,John McCain,Pro-Life,RINOs,Rudy Giuliani — Psycheout @ 1:40 pm

Outrageous. From the Des Moines Register, Get past social issues, Giuliani tells backers. Naturally, he’s talking about abortion.

“Our party has to get beyond issues like that,” Giuliani said, a reference to abortion rights, which he supports.

I guess Rudy is getting tired of addressing the issue because conservatives disagree with him on this and other “social issues.” Rudy’s message seems to be to vote for a Republican but not a conservative. Why? Because he’s no conservative. Even his own son doesn’t support him.

Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani warned GOP activists in Des Moines on Saturday that if they insist on a nominee who always agrees with them, it will spell defeat in 2008.


Republicans can win, he said, if they nominate a candidate committed to the fight against terrorism and high taxes, rather than a pure social conservative.

Translation from Rudy-speak: I’m not a social conservative at all. So vote for me, suckers, because only I can win. Wrong. No way, carpetbagger.

“I believe that because of the abortion issue in the Republican Party, it is dividing this party so badly that we may not be able to elect a Republican president,” said [Linda] Robel, who attended Giuliani’s early event at Noah’s Ark restaurant.

A typical Rudy supporter. Abortion is not dividing the Republican party. And learn how to speak. What an uninformed pro-Rudy opinion. Guess what, Linda? If Giuliani is elected, we won’t have a Republican president. We’ll have a RINO president. Give me a break. The sky is not falling because of the pro-life movement.

Clive Republican Jim Riddle, who attended Giuliani’s event at the restaurant, said he could sacrifice his own, more conservative social positions in order to support the former mayor in the caucuses.

“I’m a much more conservative person,” said Riddle, who brought his 17-year-old daughter, Madi. “I would give that up for a candidate who projects fiscal responsibility and good management.”

Riddle me this: you’re not really a conservative, are you? You aren’t if you’re able to so easily sell out your core values for “good management.” Do squishy people with no moral compass really exist in the Republican party? Sadly yes. They seem to get quoted in the media a lot to justify support for The Three RINOs. It makes me ill.

I will not sacrifice my core values to get someone elected who neither shares nor respects them. Sam Brownback or bust.

Hat Tip: Reflections of a Paralytic.

Update: Quad City Times has a great blog entry on this subject: Rudy and the Right. Read it all. The intro:

Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani is asking for a truce with conservatives over abortion.

Um, no Rudy. All issues are on the table. That’s what the primaries are all about: separating the wheat from the RINOs. Get real.

Update 2: McCain, like Rudy, sticks hoof in mouth: McCain Still Wants GOP’s Abortion Platform Changed. Sam Brownback’s wise response:

“We should not change the platform,” Brownback told ABC News. “It should not be changed.”

Keep up the great work, so-called front runners.

Update 3: Hot Air concurs in strong terms: “Rudy Giuliani may have just cost himself the nomination.”

— Psycheout


  1. Giuliani is simply outrageous. He is far worse than even the Democrats on abortion, and if it comes to it, as a social conservative, I would vote for the Democrat before him just to have a shot at a real Pro-Life candidate by 2012. With today’s HUGE VICTORY for the PRO-LIFE movement in the Supreme Court upholding the ban on partial birth abortions, now is the time to rally and push our momentum forward towards ending Roe, not tiptoe backwards and fold our hands as though we were losing by making crappy deals with RINO Rudy he would not uphold.

    I don’t see what fiscal conservatives see in him either! The guy has supported taxpayer funded abortion. Clearly he is fast and loose with the public fisc. His poll support must be coming from the left who vote on their favorite GOP candidate.

    Comment by Noonan — April 18, 2007 @ 11:03 am | Reply

  2. Well said, Noonan. I think many in the GOP have stars in their eyes which I hope they are able to shake out of their heads. We’ve got to get serious about nominating a conservative. If Rudy gets the nod, conservatives are going to wake up with a whopper of a hangover.

    Comment by Psycheout — April 18, 2007 @ 11:31 am | Reply

  3. I’m completely over Rudy Giuliani. I got over him a long time ago. I could never support him.

    Comment by Becky — April 18, 2007 @ 4:15 pm | Reply

  4. If conservatives are paying attention, this’ll really hurt Rudy.

    Comment by Red State Guy — April 18, 2007 @ 5:12 pm | Reply

  5. Rudy is so done. Just watch his poll numbers drop in the weeks and months to come.

    Comment by Anti-Media — April 18, 2007 @ 9:30 pm | Reply

  6. Skrew you gooliani.

    Comment by JOE — April 18, 2007 @ 10:52 pm | Reply

  7. Rudy is stupid or arrogant or both. He’ll never get my vote. Brownback all the way!

    Comment by Jodi — April 19, 2007 @ 12:06 am | Reply

  8. I’m concerned that if the Republicans foolishly nominate Giuliani they will split the party, possibly permanently, because there are some issues you just don’t compromise on. If someone like him gets the nomination, social conservatives will find an independent candidate to back which will be devastating for the GOP.

    Comment by Mary — April 19, 2007 @ 7:28 pm | Reply

  9. Another thing about Giuliani that should not be lost when we lament his unacceptability on social stances is that he has ZERO foreign policy experience! How does that make him the ideal guy to fight the war on terror?

    The real heroes on 9/11 were FDNY and NYPD and the hospital workers. They devoted themselves to honorable professions, developed good protocal they followed through on, and demonstrated courage while making, in some cases, the ultimate sacrifice. Giuliani, by contrast, failed to get proper first responder equipment that was requested by these groups after the first WTC attack.

    Nor is he the “most electable” and sole hope to beat Hilary Clinton. He hasn’t held an elected position in seven years and quit last time he faced Hilary Clinton in the 2000 NY Senate race when being thumped in the polls.

    Comment by Noonan — April 19, 2007 @ 7:35 pm | Reply

  10. Well said, Mary. What do you think the attraction is for, apparently, many GOP’ers? I can’t understand it at all, myself. Well, there is the mythology about his performance on 9/11, but any mayor would have done as much.

    Again, Noonan makes some great points. We’re glad to have you here.

    Comment by Psycheout — April 19, 2007 @ 7:38 pm | Reply

  11. Agreed, Mary. Welcome!

    Comment by Anti-Media — April 20, 2007 @ 12:28 am | Reply


    Comment by Jack Fremont — May 17, 2007 @ 10:49 am | Reply

  13. […] Romney can compare. And when it comes to the criminal practice of abortion, Rudy simply says, get over it. Even his own children find it impossible to support […]

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