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March 16, 2007

McCain goes soft on HIV and morality

Filed under: John McCain,RINOs — relee @ 5:12 pm

No pun intended, I assure you. This is bad: John McCain thinks that maybe handing out condoms willy-nilly is the solution to fighting HIV. Not exactly conservatve. Not exactly family values. Not exactly common sense. The worst part is he can’t seem to make up his mind:

Reporter: “Should U.S. taxpayer money go to places like Africa to fund contraception to prevent AIDS?”

Mr. McCain: “Well I think it’s a combination. The guy I really respect on this is Dr. Coburn. He believes – and I was just reading the thing he wrote– that you should do what you can to encourage abstinence where there is going to be sexual activity. Where that doesn’t succeed, than he thinks that we should employ contraceptives as well. But I agree with him that the first priority is on abstinence. I look to people like Dr. Coburn. I’m not very wise on it.”

(Mr. McCain turns to take a question on Iraq, but a moment later looks back to the reporter who asked him about AIDS.)

Mr. McCain: “I haven’t thought about it. Before I give you an answer, let me think about. Let me think about it a little bit because I never got a question about it before. I don’t know if I would use taxpayers’ money for it.”

Q: “What about grants for sex education in the United States? Should they include instructions about using contraceptives? Or should it be Bush’s policy, which is just abstinence?”

Mr. McCain: (Long pause) “Ahhh. I think I support the president’s policy.”

Q: “So no contraception, no counseling on contraception. Just abstinence. Do you think contraceptives help stop the spread of HIV?”

Mr. McCain: (Long pause) “You’ve stumped me.”

Q: “I mean, I think you’d probably agree it probably does help stop it?”

Mr. McCain: (Laughs) “Are we on the Straight Talk express?

I’m not informed enough on it. Let me find out. You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception – I’m sure I’m opposed to government spending on it, I’m sure I support the president’s policies on it.”

Q: “But you would agree that condoms do stop the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Would you say: ‘No, we’re not going to distribute them,’ knowing that?”

Mr. McCain: (Twelve-second pause) “Get me Coburn’s thing, ask Weaver to get me Coburn’s paper that he just gave me in the last couple of days. I’ve never gotten into these issues before.”

Update (by Psycheout): See also McCain: “I Have to Find Out What My Position Was” over at Elephant Biz.


  1. And THIS is the man who would be Commander-in-Chief. Well, he’s welcome to run on Hillary’s ticket any day. He’ll fit right in.

    Comment by Sisyphus — March 16, 2007 @ 6:31 pm | Reply

  2. Wow, this guy can’t even think on his feet. And he thinks he can be the leader of the free world?

    It seems like he was trying to take both sides of the issue, then was “stumped.” Probably because he wants everyone to imagine he’s on their side. So, in the end, he takes no stand whatsoever.

    And this:

    Let me find out. You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was.

    He has to consult his past statements to figure out what he thinks? Buy a clue, John. If you don’t lie you don’t have to remember what you’ve said.

    Stick a fork in him. McCain is done.

    Comment by Psycheout — March 16, 2007 @ 6:38 pm | Reply

  3. McLame is a tool.

    Comment by Red State Guy — March 17, 2007 @ 3:06 pm | Reply

  4. What is Sen. Brownback’s position on aid for AIDS – no pun intended. I feel this is good policy, and serves humanitarian needs.

    Comment by avoiceofreason — March 19, 2007 @ 12:51 am | Reply

  5. avoiceofreason, as I understand it Sam is in favor of sending aid to Africa to help alleviate the suffering going on in the AIDs epidemic. I don’t have time right now to track down references for you however.

    You might look here: At global AIDS summit, churches challenged to take the lead. It contains information about the 2006 Global Summit on AIDS and the Church.

    Comment by Psycheout — March 19, 2007 @ 8:00 pm | Reply

  6. From

    “I want kids to know when things are getting a little hot and heavy, they gotta know how and when to say STOP.. WHOA.. QUIT.. NO.. NOW.

    It is important that they have decided ahead of time whether they are ready for sex or not. Sex is an adult behavior, and unless you are adult enough to be comfortable with your own body, unless you know about sex, Birth Control and all sexually transmitted diseases, unless you are in a long-term committed relationship and can talk about sex, unless you and your partner are mature enough to use a good method of birth control and agree to use condoms for SAFER SEX, you are not ready for sex.


    Think why you want to have sex, besides the fact that you are horney, And try to anticipate your reactions afterwards. Will you feel guilty, used, ashamed, cheap, scared or regret? Will your partner gossip, will that affect your reputation? Think….All these are important considerations.”

    “TALK SEX repeatedly stresses the importance of using condoms for safer sex, but condoms are not effective against all STD’s. The Centers for Disease Control – CDC – has published an excellent fact sheet on the effectiveness of condoms against various sexually transmitted diseases.”

    “Latex condoms, when used consistently, can help to reduce transmission rates.


    Since only areas covered by the condom are protected, discharge diseases can spread to unprotected areas. For example, oral sex with no condom can result in gonorrhea of the throat.”

    I like Sue’s standpoint. Basically she holds that if teens are taught exactly why abstinence is a good idea, they are more likely to abstain from sex longer. She also backs up every claim with evidence from government tests, and reminds kids that while birth control can help, it’s not 100% safe.

    Comment by L — April 30, 2008 @ 12:02 pm | Reply

  7. Hey, Sisy is back, does this mean the trolling can be fun again?

    Comment by Arn — April 30, 2008 @ 1:02 pm | Reply

  8. “Stick a fork in him. McCain is done.”

    I guess this means you’ll be voting Democrat now. Imagine that.

    Comment by Arn — April 30, 2008 @ 1:03 pm | Reply

  9. This post was written by relee over a year ago, Arn. So what does this have to do with “Sisy” being back? And when has your trolling ever been fun?

    I know it pains you to read so much truth here at B4B, Arn, but I’m actually glad you do. OSMOSIS…. We’ll make a conservative Republican of you yet! 😀

    Comment by Psycheout — May 1, 2008 @ 12:12 pm | Reply

  10. Oh wow, you’re right, guess I should look at the dates, but you know how it is, with only 6 comments there, I just assumed it was a new one I hadn’t seen yet. I didn’t realize you folks had given up on him long before you started supporting him again, I need to take your wishy washy ways into consideration before I post. I do have a good excuse though, I posted that BEFORE I smoked a joint, brain works better after. As for this:

    “We’ll make a conservative Republican of you yet!”

    You should smoke a few yourself and get back to reality.

    Comment by Arn — May 1, 2008 @ 12:22 pm | Reply

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